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Owen Jones sent revolting homophobic abuse

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tabbycatstripy · 22/05/2022 18:48

Owen Jones has posted some terrible homophobic abuse he received on Twitter. It’s ugly stuff. Apparently he knows who sent it (the person made no effort to hide her identity) so I hope he has informed the police.

He’s blaming it on GC ‘anti-trans’ ‘radicalisation’ anyway.

Maybe we could all list below how many times we’ve sent people abusive, threatening messages online (of any sort)?

I’ll start: 0

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KarenLovesRosario · 23/05/2022 02:58

Urghh *I haven't been on Twitter

KarenLovesRosario · 23/05/2022 02:55

As others have already said many GC women are gay and those who aren't fully understand the shit that's happening to gay women at the moment.
I've not been on Twitter since not long after Graham was "Offed" so I don't know which account these tweets came from.
I hope the police fully investigate.
Then if they have time maybe look into the rape threats/fantasies about killing gc women, threats of violence etc that's been common on Twitter for years.
Only when they get a chance though obviously.
We're no bother.

GreenUp · 23/05/2022 02:38

Seems that lots of people reported her to her workplace (she had it stated in her twitter bio). The workplace was tweeting last night that it had launched an investigation into the issue.

Her account is now protected which seems a bit strange if she was just hacked.

Hopefully it will be fully investigated. It wasn't just Owen who was abused by that account but also Ian Wright, India Willoughby and Angela Rayner.

theemperorhasnoclothes · 22/05/2022 23:32

I hope they've all reported to the police.

He does know, however that a lot of GC women are same sex attracted and that's partly WHY they're GC, right?

Being GC I would say on balance makes you less likely to be homophobic. Part of what we're against is transing away the gay.

Didn't some of the whistleblowers from the Tavi express concerns that some parents were homophobic and this was behind their desire for their child to transition?

FeminismAndCake · 22/05/2022 23:25

The messages to him, India Willoughby and Angela Rayner are horrible and shouldn’t have been sent.

They are similar to the sort of messages I’ve seen numerous trans activists tweet at women - which doesn’t excuse them obviously.

theemperorhasnoclothes · 22/05/2022 23:20

Lovelyricepudding · 22/05/2022 19:43

If we are to follow OJ''s own example then aren't we meant to declare it was made up and ask for the other sides version of events?

Yes, and how does he know it was posted by a woman, not a man pretending to be a woman?

Cailleach1 · 22/05/2022 22:54

Oh, I do hope he reports it. I mean he wouldn't have sent it, or arranged with someone to send it to himself. Therefore, the thing to do is report it to the police and sort it out.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 22/05/2022 22:53

mrshoho · 22/05/2022 22:49

Those messages are disgusting and cannot be excused. I believe this user's account must have been hacked. I really hope there is a way of tracking down the culprit behind it.

Me too. It's the only way to clear her name to his followers' satisfaction.

mrshoho · 22/05/2022 22:49

Those messages are disgusting and cannot be excused. I believe this user's account must have been hacked. I really hope there is a way of tracking down the culprit behind it.

ThinkingaboutLangClegosaurus · 22/05/2022 22:39

Hi Mumsnet, can you let me know what I put in that comment that got it deleted? I've read the talk guidelines and can't find where I transgressed. Thanks.

Lynnthesearesexnotgenderpeople · 22/05/2022 22:35

That said, the tweet does say he is trying to encroach on women's spaces so I can see why he's made a GC link.

I think quite a lot of trolls are dropping this in now, they know its a hot topic of division and will draw more attention to their trolling (and boy has that tactic worked a treat in this case!). A bit like when Putin mentioned JKR in that speech he did a few months ago.

Most of that horrible abusive message Owen was subjected to was nothing to do with women's spaces, it was just plopped in at the end.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 22/05/2022 22:32

Redshoeblueshoe · 22/05/2022 22:13

I'm blocked by LOJ and I've never interacted with him on Twitter.
The fact he blocks all GC women tells me - the account was hacked.

Good point, well made.

Whatiswrongwithmyknee · 22/05/2022 22:28

I think he's an odious male supremacist and his use of the word radicalised to describe consciousness raising in a group of people who are oppressed is the sort of thing someone who does not wish to recognise their privilege might say as a way to protect that privilege. That said, the tweet does say he is trying to encroach on women's spaces so I can see why he's made a GC link.

Homophobia is never OK. It's not OK to say this to Owen. It's not OK when Stonewall does it either.

fatfrenchprick · 22/05/2022 22:28
Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/05/2022 22:21

Kys and the f-word? Please. It is clearly a hack, written in the language of the American and terminally online.

I've seen very unconvincing screenshots purporting to be British gender critical feminists before.

Lynnthesearesexnotgenderpeople · 22/05/2022 22:15

Sorry I said, 'and all sorts' twice there - it really is though! I am finding this really unsettling.

Lynnthesearesexnotgenderpeople · 22/05/2022 22:13

Jesus Christ, they are properly going after her now. Apparently part of the 'evidence' that she wasn't hacked was that she sent a happy birthday tweet to some bloke who posted a couple of pro Elon Musk and Brexit tweets - this clearly shows she is far right and must have sent all this stuff herself. HmmThey have been looking on her Facebook and all sorts.

Plus loads of tweets to her employer calling for her to be fired because she is 'unsafe' and all sorts.

These people are actually unhinged, it's terrifying. This is really starting to look like a woman caught in the crossfire of a load of men slinging shit at each other.

I really hope that if she was hacked, her employer publicly says so.

Redshoeblueshoe · 22/05/2022 22:13

I'm blocked by LOJ and I've never interacted with him on Twitter.
The fact he blocks all GC women tells me - the account was hacked.

luciatrope · 22/05/2022 22:11

Kys and the f-word? Please. It is clearly a hack, written in the language of the American and terminally online.

AlisonDonut · 22/05/2022 21:50

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LondonWolf · 22/05/2022 21:47

MagnoliaTaint · 22/05/2022 21:28

Well. Read the tweets, read the other stuff from the account.

That looks to me like a really obvious hack. But presumably Owen has checked, before setting his 1million followers on this one woman, yes, and getting her employer contacted?

Because as we know, he's never been told off for bullying women.

Of course he hasn't. Well not before firmly tying it to gender critical women in the minds of his 1M followers. He knows fine well it's a hack but it's too good to waste.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 22/05/2022 21:45

Who'd have thought it. A man of the workers like Jones getting a woman reported to her employer after her twitter account was hacked. Even if they acknowledge that it wasn't her, she is going to be in huge trouble for linking her account to her workplace and they may discipline her for that.

I hope she's the member of a union.

AstroSurf · 22/05/2022 21:44

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nepeta · 22/05/2022 21:39

It is rather horrifying to see the new mob justice in operation. The woman's employer has already been contacted and who knows what other things have been done. But as far as I can tell, it hasn't been even verified yet that the account wasn't hacked.

There are tremendous problems with this new 'justice' of canceling people: There is no defense, the sentences are almost always out of proportion to whatever someone did, and there is no appeal process, either. I know of cases where someone with the same name as a person who was hated online was severely harassed. I wish people with large following such as OJ didn't do this. It's extremely unhealthy as there are proper channels of making a complaint.

Yes. The tweets sent to OJ were awful, and he should have contacted the authorities.

I find the gleeful witch-hunting - of what could be just some random woman whose account has been hacked - equally awful.

tabbycatstripy · 22/05/2022 21:40

‘OJ refers to “the anti-trans movement” in those tweets. So assuming GC is not anti-trans, then it’s not GC feminists being referred to.’

Excellent, is he differentiating between the two as he should now?

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