Owen Jones sent revolting homophobic abuse

I agree that OJ should have contacted Twitter and the Police and reported the account.

A basic google search shows that Section 127 of the Communications Act makes it an offense to send public messages of a “grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character,” which is quite clearly a very broad remit. (Which ironically is what a lot of OJ's followers have also now done.)

I wonder if he has trouble following policies and procedures at work. Wasn't there something about that a while back ... Private Eye ... oooh wait ... on the tip of my brain ...

Always the lone screenshot, never the actual link to the thread.

Hopefully some of them will come over though and we can discuss what's happening!

IW got called the American f-word for gay, and two repetitions of a sentence that would be deleted on MN.

Angela received the most British abuse: "slag bitch".

Thanks Potholes. So no quotes from Julia Long or Jane Clare Jones then?

And now he's highlighted this thread to his one million followers. Which is a bit daft as any that pop in for a look might start to have second thoughts about how this is playing out...

Still it’s deflected all the censure he got last week for his behaviour around the story with the schoolgirl & asking ppl involved with the school ti tweet him

Yes, good timing!

Number of threatening abusive messages I’ve sent 0

Number I’ve received, lost count at around 50.

Even more reason for women not to be on twitter.

We just need to keep organising for women's rights in person as well as on MN which - however much I don't like all the rules - has been a bastion of free speech for a group who often are excluded from public discourse - yes, women.

The way that OJ is reacting makes it seem like he's not actually that bothered about the homophobic abuse but just wants to use it as a springboard to cause harm to women yet again.

And how you get from homophobic abuse to 'anti-trans' movement I don't know. There are no logical steps.

And contacting someone's employer is bullying, no two ways about it. Contacting the police is the correct way to deal with this - so that the facts (e.g. was the account hacked or not) can be established. Not just hounding someone who's potentially innocent out of a job. I don't really see that this is much better than the abuse itself.

It's clearly a hacked account. But yet again we have Owen Jones as the real victim after all the recent accounts of his bullying behaviour and the targeting of a teenage girl, we have yet another righteous mob whipped up against a woman that no one can criticise Jones about this time because he's the real victim with this overshadowing all his own actions so we have to forget what he's done and we have women yet again completely erased from our own liberation because all we are to Jones is 'anti-trans.'

I feel like there's a pattern here because I know I've seen this before, even typed the same words, I've probably posted on mumsnet or twitter about it. Maybe I'll AS myself. But at least he's taking responsibility for the anti-woman movement's attacks on women that go far beyond the commonplace anti-woman rape and death threats, doxxing and getting women sacked to include murder, rape, sexual assaults and physical assaults. Oh wait...

Maybe hacked by more than one person. Or a racist Tory homophobic Spurs fan. Could it be someone having a mental health crisis though? Why else would you post that awful stuff under your own name.

Still it’s deflected all the censure he got last week for his behaviour around the story with the schoolgirl & asking ppl involved with the school ti tweet him

Giving him the benefit of tbe doubt, it's possible that he was so keen to make the point about normal people being radicalised by Mumsnet/JKR etc that he posted the Aldi/Captain Tom info without thinking it through. And without thinking that it looked highly likely this young woman's account had been hacked.

I’m not sure how much benefit this doubt affords him. It’s his job to think! If he’s too giddily overcome by the excitement of being spiteful to think through his behaviour, it doesn’t put him in a better light.

I think any reasonable person would assume “hack” on looking at the facts here. Jones had access to all the relevant facts. He is not a reasonable or rational person and his unhinged behaviour seems to me to be escalating.

IW got called the American f-word for gay, and two repetitions of a sentence that would be deleted on MN.

Angela received the most British abuse: "slag bitch".

According to some
people, just glancing in MN’s general direction will do the job?

Are you saying you are not radicalised?

It’s worrying that Twitter accounts can be hacked so easily and that she wasn’t aware.

Stuff of nightmares.

I'm not entirely sure if he meant to out this person to his 1 million followers or not.

Are you kidding. He revels in getting women dogpiled on, using his followers. Last week he was trying to do it to a teenage schoolgirl.

What was the abuse to Willoughby and Rayner?

Certainly not British women. The language used to him and the other people targeted is American English.

I've just read it on his Facebook page. It's weird that he's decided that homophobic abuse is a result of the 'anti trans movement'.

And yes, he's inviting his followers to whip up a witch hunt.

In any event this is either a troll or a hack. Women don't speak like that.

Errr no. The man's an arse and a stirrer but he doesn't dish out abuse like this and he doesn't deserve to receive it. Nobody does.

I agree that he was right to flag what happened, but why didn't he just report it to her employer/the police himself?

I'm not entirely sure if he meant to out this person to his 1 million followers or not. Giving him the benefit of tbe doubt, it's possible that he was so keen to make the point about normal people being radicalised by Mumsnet/JKR etc that he posted the Aldi/Captain Tom info without thinking it through. And without thinking that it looked highly likely this young woman's account had been hacked.

At the other end, it's possible he knew perfectly well what he was doing, deliberately posted enough info that he knew everyone would easily find her without him being the one who actually posted her account, and noticed that she hadn't posted in months and it seemed a bit strange but for whatever reason just didn't care if she had been hacked.

How does one access the ‘radicalisation’ areas of MN? Is there a minimum post count? Special handshake? Or do I need a Twitter account? Because at that I draw the line 😕

I would happily and truthfully call Owen Jones a raging misogynist and an online bully, because his own words over the past few years have repeatedly revealed that to be the truth and I could point to many tweets that provide evidence.

I would never stoop to using homophobic slurs or abuse toward Owen Jones because that is completely out of order and vastly unpleasant. And I absolutely agree he is right to flag that it has happened, just as women are right to flag the hateful misogynistic slurs and threats they receive depressingly frequently.

If this account has been hacked, as looks likely, I hope the police can find who is behind it and punish them appropriately, and I hope Jones isn’t too upset by it.

Her account is now protected which seems a bit strange if she was just hacked.

Her account was locked shortly after her employer said they were going to investigate. This fits in to her being hacked as they probably contacted her (the woman may have been going about her Sunday completely oblivious to what was unfolding on Twitter) and then she was able to log back in, or get Twitter to do it, and lock her account.

If it were really her, and she had really tweeted that shit under her own name and employer, she probably would have locked her account as soon as OJ and IW actually noticed and drew attention to what she was posting.

Who knows really. But OJ and IW should have at least checked before going in so hard as it did look dodgy. I get that if they are sent such horrible abuse they might go in all guns blazing and want immediate revenge and mightnot think things through, but it's now possible that a young woman has unnecessarily been targeted.

@DontLikeCrumpets
Narcissists will quite often create drama when they see someone else getting attention.
No idea why I said that out loud as it has nothing at all to do with this thread at all....

I will be exceedingly surprised if hacking is not involved given the name wasn't hidden. Odd coinkydink that this seems to have happened on the heels to Maher's stellar GC rant that is getting lots of attention. Just sayin.