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Owen Jones sent revolting homophobic abuse

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tabbycatstripy · 22/05/2022 18:48

Owen Jones has posted some terrible homophobic abuse he received on Twitter. It’s ugly stuff. Apparently he knows who sent it (the person made no effort to hide her identity) so I hope he has informed the police.

He’s blaming it on GC ‘anti-trans’ ‘radicalisation’ anyway.

Maybe we could all list below how many times we’ve sent people abusive, threatening messages online (of any sort)?

I’ll start: 0

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Clymene · 24/05/2022 16:19

No me neither @ScreamingMeMe. He's been named so I hope the police pursue it.

ScreamingMeMe · 24/05/2022 16:15

Clymene · 24/05/2022 15:59

It seems the woman whose account sent the messages announced a new boyfriend the day before the messages were sent. The following day, her ex boyfriend deleted his own Twitter account Hmm

Hmmmnnn...

Woild not be at all shocked if an abusive man was behind it. If he has something to do with this, I hope there are consequences for it.

Clymene · 24/05/2022 15:59

It seems the woman whose account sent the messages announced a new boyfriend the day before the messages were sent. The following day, her ex boyfriend deleted his own Twitter account Hmm

GoodThinkingMax · 24/05/2022 14:16

WandaWomblesaurus · 24/05/2022 06:49

Is it not also homophobic abuse to tell Lesbians they should accept male bodied sexual partners and to encourage gay children to transition?

Absolutely! But Owen Jones will never see that, because he's a self-righteous arrogant man (nothing to do with his sexuality). I don't think we should add fuel to his stupid fire.

ScreamingMeMe · 24/05/2022 07:03

Yes of course it is, but two wrongs don't make a right and some people will never see their own hypocrisy.

WandaWomblesaurus · 24/05/2022 06:49

Is it not also homophobic abuse to tell Lesbians they should accept male bodied sexual partners and to encourage gay children to transition?

GoodThinkingMax · 24/05/2022 02:28

That's good to hear @AlisonDonut

AlisonDonut · 23/05/2022 20:23

GoodThinkingMax · 23/05/2022 20:14

Owen Jones has posted some terrible homophobic abuse he received on Twitter. It’s ugly stuff.

It's totally unacceptable.

But he shouldn't tar all feminists with this brush.

Homophobic abuse I have Tweeted: 0

The person that posted it was hacked.

And nothing to do with feminists.

mrshoho · 23/05/2022 20:17

The TRAs on twitter appear rattled by Mumsnet. To think they believe we're part of a plan to radicalise unsuspecting people. Radicalised into what? Understanding human biology. Shock horror how very dangerous to humanity we are!

GoodThinkingMax · 23/05/2022 20:14

Owen Jones has posted some terrible homophobic abuse he received on Twitter. It’s ugly stuff.

It's totally unacceptable.

But he shouldn't tar all feminists with this brush.

Homophobic abuse I have Tweeted: 0

Willowcat77 · 23/05/2022 19:54

Do you think Owen Jones will now apologise for setting his followers on to this young woman? It was so glaringly obvious that her account was hacked, possibly by a teenage boy, judging by the language used. Do you think he genuinely didn't realise this or did he knowingly jump onto this to this as a convenient way to to demonise GC women to his followers?

GCRich · 23/05/2022 19:41

ScreamingMeMe · Today 07:52

Errr no. The man's an arse and a stirrer but he doesn't dish out abuse like this and he doesn't deserve to receive it. Nobody does.

Maybe I am weird but in my opinion homophobic slurs are disgusting and hateful and obviously a deeply serious matter. If the slurs were in any way linked to a credible real life threat they would be horrific.

But IMHO two things are worse -

(1) Encouraging the online abuse and real life harrassment of women and members of the LGB community for the crime of wanting to retain women's and
gay rights.

(2) Actively seeking to destroy women's and gay rights.

And not only that I am fairly confident that his pleasure in having a stick to beat women with massively outweighs the hurt. I'd bet money he is DELIGHTED he got that abuse, but I wouldn't bet money that it wasn't sent by one of his supporters.

Lynnthesearesexnotgenderpeople · 23/05/2022 19:38

Not much engagement on that statement from the hotel.....wouldn't want to draw attention to it now would we?

Lynnthesearesexnotgenderpeople · 23/05/2022 19:35

This is going to end up just like WiSpa isn't it. Loads of fuss and then once it becomes apparent that they were wrong about it, it will be brushed under the carpet, never spoken of again and ignored every time it is mentioned.

That poor woman.

LeniGray · 23/05/2022 19:33

Helleofabore · 23/05/2022 08:27

According to some
people, just glancing in MN’s general direction will do the job?

Are you saying you are not radicalised?

According to some people, just glancing in MN’s general direction will do the job?

Are you saying you are not radicalised?

I don’t feel radicalised, I feel middle-aged and sensible, whilst much of the world appears to have gone stark-raving bonkers when I wasn’t paying attention. It’s early days for me here, but it appears there may be some more sensible people here. I’m drinking more tea than usual though, perhaps that’s as radical as I get 😳

Complete level 4, win all the gold coins, and backflip through Style & Beauty while wearing Ugg Boots.

Well, I’m out then. Ugg … ugghh. And a backflip, ha, not a chance! Chronic sciatica😫

I don’t understand very well how Twitter works, but whenever it comes up it seems like a site where people just hate on each other relentlessly. I don’t understand why anyone would want to be on it, I’ll be steering well clear. I’m glad the situation seems to be getting resolved, I’ve been on the receiving end of homophobic abuse before, and while I’m pretty thick-skinned, it’s not pleasant.

mrshoho · 23/05/2022 19:17

I've just set up 2 step authentication. I never really tweet or reply but I've liked and followed various GC posts. Horrible how innocent people are being hacked and I hope Owen Jones will now acknowledge that this person was unfairly targeted. You would have thought someone of his intelligence and twitter experience would have sussed it straight away.

MagnoliaTaint · 23/05/2022 17:47

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/05/2022 17:43

Two step authentication, people.

But ... I can't get into my a/c to delete or secure it!

Plasmodesmata · 23/05/2022 17:45

And the lesson here is - if you are a woman with a twitter account don't use your a) real name b) photo or c) place of work on it, just in case.

Plasmodesmata · 23/05/2022 17:43

I don't think this case was even that sophisticated. There was nothing about the account that suggested she was even aware of the issues. It looked like random troll attack, picking four people in the public eye and going for a full bingo card of abuse.

What was interesting was certain people using it to try to get a woman fired without pausing to think for a moment.
Did Angela Rayner or Ian Wright comment at all?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/05/2022 17:43

Two step authentication, people.

RoyalCorgi · 23/05/2022 17:34

I think what's happening here is that we're winning. The vast amounts of abuse directed at gc women hasn't been successful in promoting the trans cause (quite the opposite), so continuing the spirit of DARVO, the next stage is to make it look as if gc women are the ones doling out the abuse. Hence the hacking of accounts. I imagine we're going to see a lot more of it over the coming weeks and months.

RoyalCorgi · 23/05/2022 17:27

I have noticed that there are a number of commentators and cultural influencers, most of whom I think are grifters on principle, who have been made insane by supporting the extreme end of trans 'rights' - I would imagine the cognitive dissonance involved is simply not compatible with sanity.

I think this is an astute point. Social media seems to compel people to pick a side on an issue (Brexit and Covid restrictions being other examples) and then never back down, regardless of the evidence. Trans activism is an extreme version of that, because once you've decided you're all in favour of trans rights, you have to keep on defending them, even as it becomes clear that the central demands are completely lunatic and being made by people who are deeply unsavoury.

crosstalk · 23/05/2022 17:13

@Schnoobly I have never ever seen anything on MN which has people criticising men for long hair, make up or anything which is so called feminine. Even Gransnet remembers the days of the Sixties, Seventies, Eighties when men with long hair and makeup was a Thing.

If you have seen this, please link.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 23/05/2022 17:13

Please may she not lose her job.

Plasmodesmata · 23/05/2022 17:13

do you think LOJ may apologise for setting his attack dogs on her?

What do we reckon? It'll somehow still be her fault. Or our fault. Or some woman somewhere's fault.