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Owen Jones sent revolting homophobic abuse

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tabbycatstripy · 22/05/2022 18:48

Owen Jones has posted some terrible homophobic abuse he received on Twitter. It’s ugly stuff. Apparently he knows who sent it (the person made no effort to hide her identity) so I hope he has informed the police.

He’s blaming it on GC ‘anti-trans’ ‘radicalisation’ anyway.

Maybe we could all list below how many times we’ve sent people abusive, threatening messages online (of any sort)?

I’ll start: 0

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Lynnthesearesexnotgenderpeople · 25/05/2022 18:01

Even Katy Montgomerie says its pretty obvious the account was hacked! How embarrassing for OJ, he is supposed to be a journalist and an avid Twitter user and he can't even spot a hacked account from 50 paces (or maybe he could but didn't give a shit).

I haven't seen any apology from him yet, I won't hold my breath.

ScreamingMeMe · 25/05/2022 16:44

GoodThinkingMax · 25/05/2022 11:08

That's pretty much what he tweeted yesterday.

Really? Fucking hell sometimes I hate to be right

YetAnotherSpartacus · 25/05/2022 12:52

Ah OK. I thought it might have been in the media or something. Thank you!

GoodThinkingMax · 25/05/2022 11:08

ScreamingMeMe · 25/05/2022 08:39

I'm expecting a "Well I'm sorry I wrongly accused this woman. But if you terfs weren't so horrible, I would never have suspected her in the first place."

Something like that.

That's pretty much what he tweeted yesterday.

Clymene · 25/05/2022 10:47

YetAnotherSpartacus · 25/05/2022 09:47

Are the details about the account being hacked and so on in any way public? I'm trying to get my head around this and about how people know what happened.

The place the woman works has posted on Twitter. Another woman has posted saying that the account holder said she had a new boyfriend on Facebook the day before the horrible messages were sent and that her ex had deleted his Twitter and 'sanitised' his social media.

donquixotedelamancha · 25/05/2022 10:42

it means LOJ hasn’t got that ear/eye for evidence and proof that a properly trained journalist has.

Yes but, more importantly, he identifies as a journalist. So what if he has no training and doesn't behave like a journalist 'should'? He's bravely expanding that bandwidth of journalism.

mrshoho · 25/05/2022 10:19

Or indeed any human with a functioning brain.

Exactly. I've not had the privilege of an Oxford education nor am I a journalist. Add in that I still don't get how twitter works yet I was able to deduce pretty quickly that this account was hacked. I would go further and say I was quite sure those hate tweets were written by a man but that's purely an instinct.

RoyalCorgi · 25/05/2022 10:04

GoodThinkingMax · 24/05/2022 19:04

Sorry pressed post too soon.

it means LOJ hasn’t got that ear/eye for evidence and proof that a properly trained journalist has.

it means LOJ hasn’t got that ear/eye for evidence and proof that a properly trained journalist has.

Or indeed any human with a functioning brain.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 25/05/2022 09:47

Are the details about the account being hacked and so on in any way public? I'm trying to get my head around this and about how people know what happened.

ScreamingMeMe · 25/05/2022 08:39

I'm expecting a "Well I'm sorry I wrongly accused this woman. But if you terfs weren't so horrible, I would never have suspected her in the first place."

Something like that.

ScreamingBeans · 24/05/2022 21:35

Well of course, women are responsible for the behaviour of male homophobes. And male anything else's as well.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/05/2022 20:10

Of course he doesn't give a shit, Lynn. That's abundantly clear. Women are just props that are either useful or damaging to his arguments.

Yep.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 24/05/2022 19:22

One would have thought that the critical thinking and assessment of primary and secondary sources required as part of reading history (at the University of Oxford, IIRC) would have gone some way towards filling that gap.

Also, he's rapidly approaching middle-age, but he's not that old. He grew up with the internet. Why has he no 'ear' for the abrupt shift in tone of a hijacked social media account? It happens all the time.

GoodThinkingMax · 24/05/2022 19:04

Sorry pressed post too soon.

it means LOJ hasn’t got that ear/eye for evidence and proof that a properly trained journalist has.

GoodThinkingMax · 24/05/2022 19:03

Thing is, AFAIK, LOJ has never done the full traditional training as a journalist. He went straight in as a “commentator.”

I’m reminded of the debacle of Johann Hari at the Independent (I think) a decade ago …

KatVonlabonk · 24/05/2022 17:28

Hmm.

I'm glad it's been investigated further, looks like a hack, awful thing to do and say. I hope they trace the ip address.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 24/05/2022 17:08

LOJ has just had a mini rant on Jeremy Vine, about this very subject (unrelated to the subject they were discussing).

Yes - well said, Jane from Liverpool! Predictably, he said his little piece in response, making it sound like she was anti-trans rights rather than pro-women's rights and that he was a nice, kind person battling against hatred and intolerance; and then she was swiftly cut off Sad

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 24/05/2022 17:08

You'd think such a committed left-wing activist would be distraught over the possibility that he might have been exploited in an attempt to get a woman unfairly dismissed from her workplace for something she didn't do.

Clymene · 24/05/2022 16:55

Well he hasn't apologised for trying to track down the poor abused schoolgirl and he hadn't taken down his Facebook post even after all his followers found out who the woman was and were trying to get her fired. And still didn't take it down when her employers posted to say that they didn't think she'd done it.

So no, on the current evidence I'd say no, he's not going to apologise or retract.

Never forget how much he really, really hates women.

tabbycatstripy · 24/05/2022 16:55

If that’s true that is dreadful.

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MagnoliaTaint · 24/05/2022 16:54

Of course he doesn't give a shit, Lynn. That's abundantly clear. Women are just props that are either useful or damaging to his arguments.

Theeyeballsinthefuckingsky · 24/05/2022 16:51

Can I just check that all the outrage about LOJ encouraging tweets about the incident of the girl bullied at school have stopped?

Lynnthesearesexnotgenderpeople · 24/05/2022 16:46

Jesus Christ, if this is a revenge hacking from an ex boyfriend that Owen Jones has then highlighted to a million people then that is just terrible.

But now I am wondering if OJ will even give a shit? Surely he will have to publicly apologise?

MagnoliaTaint · 24/05/2022 16:36

Clymene · 24/05/2022 15:59

It seems the woman whose account sent the messages announced a new boyfriend the day before the messages were sent. The following day, her ex boyfriend deleted his own Twitter account Hmm

I hope she's okay. And yes, one would hope that people would think for just a moment before instigating a witch-hunt.

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 24/05/2022 16:23

Woild not be at all shocked if an abusive man was behind it. If he has something to do with this, I hope there are consequences for it.

Hope that this is a lesson for the "journalist" who organised a witch hunt on cue at the behest of an abusive man.