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How language has changed in 6 years

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Plasmodesmata · 22/05/2022 08:04

Compare and contrast these two news reports, one from today, and the other from 2016.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-61477168

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-37606726

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Helleofabore · 22/05/2022 09:06

SeldomHere · 22/05/2022 09:00

The point of this is to be inclusive of trans men, none of this is about trans women...

Have you deliberately misinterpreted 334’s post? 334 is pointing out the lack of aggressively forced changes to the language surrounding discussion about males.

To be clear, males are not called ejaculators, sperm havers, prostate owners, testicle holders are they?

hearmywomanlyroar · 22/05/2022 09:04

Thanks for highlighting, I've made a complaint. Side note - double depressing that it's a woman who wrote the article. What hope do we have when some women so gleefully embrace this bullshit?

Lostillusions · 22/05/2022 09:01

It's really offensive. I am going to complain.

SeldomHere · 22/05/2022 09:00

334bu · 22/05/2022 08:35

The only change is to the language which links female biology to the word " woman". No similar change has been made to erase the word " man" as transmen don't count as they are female. This is patriarchy at its most blatant as it is male people demanding this , so that they can call themselves women.

The point of this is to be inclusive of trans men, none of this is about trans women...

IvyTwines · 22/05/2022 08:53

Congratulations to Zambia for forcing the BBC to use the word 'mothers' in that article there. Elsewhere we're 'those', 'people', 'participants', 'anyone', 'workers' and 'employees'.

What the actual fuck is going on in the BBC's heads, still?

FOJN · 22/05/2022 08:53

A whole article about period pain without using the word woman once, I might find it impressive if I hadn't spent decades managing my life around my endometriosis, instead I just find it offensive.

JellySaurus · 22/05/2022 08:42

Yet in the article about monkeypox being transmitted sexually they're not squeamish about mentioning men.

Surely it should say:

And the most recent UK cases are in gay or bisexual people which has prompted the UK Health Security Agency to encourage people who have sex with people to be aware of any unusual rashes or lesions.

Come on BBC. Do you think that accurate information is important for everybody? Or only some bodies?

334bu · 22/05/2022 08:35

The only change is to the language which links female biology to the word " woman". No similar change has been made to erase the word " man" as transmen don't count as they are female. This is patriarchy at its most blatant as it is male people demanding this , so that they can call themselves women.

Plasmodesmata · 22/05/2022 08:27

Yes, sorry it's a bit early. I've been up since 3 going in and out the bathroom being a person who has ridiculous periods, so the first story particularly irked me.

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Clymene · 22/05/2022 08:13

Emma Cox from Endometriosis UK says: "We need to challenge the squeamishness and silence around menstrual health".

You're not going to be able to do that when you're too squeamish to mention women though are you Emma?

Dinosauria · 22/05/2022 08:12

I'm going to have to stop coming on here, this is too much erasure to cope with at 8.13am.

Fizzyfish · 22/05/2022 08:09

Yes and I find it so disturbing, I don't even know where to begin 🙄

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