Do pronouns feel alien to anyone else?

This is a British site, we don't get to vote in American elections, and we're mainly left-wing.

How is GC women voting for the Republican party to "reign in the trans agenda", empowering Republicans to achieve those goals, irrelevant?

The fact that conservative Christians are spearheading this doesn't change the fact that GC women bleeding over to the conservative side helps them succeed.

If she'd rather be a boy, he should be free to be a boy.
Except it's not possible to change sex. The problem is, as observed by many staff at the Tavistock, that homophobic parents are bringing their children in because they'd rather have a trans child than a gay child. The way you're implying people simply pick and choose their sex is a nonsense, as well as not showing the slightest understanding about the social context for the reason young males and females are claiming a trans identity for themselves at an unprecedented rate at this current moment in time, and in addition why many middle-aged transvestites are suddenly claiming to be literally female - because they are being celebrated as 'stunning and brave' rather than perverts. Again, I suggest further reading as you don't seem to be able to refute any of the points being made with any kind of arguments or evidence, you just revert back to name-calling and baseless accusations.

The Republican Party in the US has tried to overturn Roe v. Wade since the day that decision was published. What gender critical women do or say today is irrelevant in understanding what is going on in the US.

The people pushing it are the right-wing Christians in the base of the Republican Party, and they have worked on this for many decades.

@Sunquench
> My niece is a female. She is a lesbian. She loves blue and football. She doesn’t want to change sex though and turn into a male.

I don't understand why you think "trans activists" believe she should.

If she's happy being a girl who plays football, it's okay for her to be a girl who plays football. If she'd rather be a boy, he should be free to be a boy.

That's all we're saying, that's all we're asking for. To give people the option to choose.

This whole argument is just GC people projecting the same strawman on us over and over, despite us objecting every single time.

I think this only supports the argument that pronouns are socially constructed rather then "biological"?

I'm not French so I imagine a French trans person would have more to say about this, but the idea that gender pronouns being strictly "sex-based" always struck me as ridiculous for this exact reason.

I see how anti-trans GC rhetoric actively empowers those taking away abortion rights and birth control from women.

A question for Seldom >
So what is your opinion about what happens in a language where inanimate objects, such as chairs and tables have a grammatical gender? In English, i say ‘ have you seen my handbag? I thought it was on the table.’ In French though ‘ avez vous vu mon sac? Je crois qu’il était sur la table ‘.

So the handbag is using male pronouns, and the table, should it reply protesting its innocence, would be female ? How do the social constructs about your gender identity work when chairs and tables use them too?

Also in French, certain professions and occupations have defined gender conjunctions. A baker and a schoolteacher are always defined using the masculine formation. If you are a trans woman and a teacher, how do you cope with being known as a professeur? ( un) toujours.

@IstayedForTheFeminism

I agree.

My niece is a female. She is a lesbian. She loves blue and football. She doesn’t want to change sex though and turn into a male 🫤. It is all incredibly bizarre.

Wonder how nonbinary people express their special status in languages which don't have separate male and female third person singular pronouns? Much harder, I would think.

I don't and won't use pronouns.

I have colleagues and friends who do and I support their choice to do so. I choose not to.

There are 2 sexes. Male and female.
The male sex (humans this is) are boys who grow into men.
The female sex humans are girls who grow into women.

So you're a woman. Your daughter is a girl. You are both female.

Gender is... something or other. A feeling inside maybe. Stereotypes like girls like pink, boys like blue. No one can ever actually define it.
Or, imo, a load of nonsense.

I think you mean there are two sexes. Gender used to be used to refer to sex but generally it is less confusing just to say sex!

@IstayedForTheFeminism

oh right …… so does this mean I’m not allowed to call myself a female then? What’s the correct term for sex? Shall I just refer to myself as someone who holds two X chromosomes 🤦‍♀️.

Mind boggling stuff. I don’t care what anyone says. There are males and there are females, two genders of the opposite sex.

This is how I’m educating my daughter that’s for sure.

Only one of them is confused about what sex they are, and think 'feeling womanly' actually makes them a woman. NATWALT

Oh do piss if Seldom. Men and women are biological reality, not social construct. Under your ridiculous logic everything is a social construct, as humans gave them names. So a mountain is a social construct!

Why the hell should I respect your crazy labels when you show absolutely no respect to women on this forum, calling them cis, calling them bigots. Who the hell made you the judge of what I should respect and give headspace to?

Gender is a social construct.
Sex isn't.

Indeed, many of the young girls who are claiming to be transmen feel exactly the same as I do, but rather than fight sexism and stereotypes their solution is to claim the identity of 'male' instead, so they don't have to. It's very understandable, being a woman in a never-ending battle against new forms of misogyny, TRAs and gender identity ideology being the latest form - if you can't fight em, join em. You should read Abigail Shrier's book, 'Irreversible Damage', then you might gain a deeper understanding of how these young girls claiming a trans identity are feeling.

So what's the difference between a tw wearing a dress and a man wearing a dress?