Do pronouns feel alien to anyone else?

I told you. Meaning can change. And the currently commonly recognized meanings already include trans women.
No, I'm afraid not.A few years ago I think more people would have agreed with you but transactivism has really woken people up to what's going on and the stealthy way language is being altered to erase women. So, no. Bit of an own goal there.

Not really. Dictionary definitions include trans women also. And passing trans women in particular have little issue being commonly regarded as women in their everyday lives.

My skin is white….. but I identify as black.

I am essentially a wannabe coconut.

Commonly having been redefined to mean a small number of people mostly on Twitter

@IstayedForTheFeminism
> Because words have (or at least used to have) generally accepted meanings.
If someone decides to change the meaning of those words they become... erm... meaningless.

I told you. Meaning can change. And the currently commonly recognized meanings already include trans women.

@AlecTrevelyan006

Love that. Girls.

Because words have (or at least used to have) generally accepted meanings.
If someone decides to change the meaning of those words they become... erm... meaningless.

Can I start calling myself a doctor and use the title Dr. Even though I'm not one? And if not, why not? I identify as a Dr so I'm sure you'll let me operate on you/prescribed you some meds/whatever.

twitter.com/sueveneer/status/1528341076943175680

So men being more violent is being classed as bioessentialist…….. riiiiggghhhhht.

Oh, so you do believe personality is dictated by sex? Interesting.

I thought that belief was, you know, sexist.

You literally throw a fit over the notion that some people might use the same words to describe themselves.

Your reading skills are a bit rusty. I said call yourself what you like but don't expect other people to join in. Words have a meaning. If I identify as black when I'm white or as a doctor when I'm not, I don't expect to win prizes reserved for black authors or treat patients. Similarly if males want to call themselves women, they can - but that has no legal value and doesn't mean they can access facilities, spaces or competitions reserved for females.

You literally throw a fit over the notion that some people might use the same words to describe themselves.

How is that not selfish?
It has been clearly explained to you why we need a clear word for adult human female. That word is woman. Get your thieving hands off it.

Which part of genetics are you referring to? Chromosomes?
Oh, all of it. See post above above height and personality and so on. There are some great podcasts out there on the impact of genetics on personality. Perhaps you should go and listen to a few rather than haranguing us here.

Right, violence is stored in the chromosomes, and other bioessentialist bullshit.

She means men. Men are statistically more likely to be violent both to each other and to women. The vast majority of men have XY chromosomes so it has predictive value. It's not "bioessentialist".

*pressure to detransition

One of the go-to attack lines against trans women is attacking them for insufficiently feminine behavior or appearance.

Trans women absolutely face many of the same attacks and expectations typically directed at women.

While also simultaneously facing pressure to transition and conform to the expectations imposed on men.

Cool, so what's the big deal? Does "being on small/large gamete producing pathway" need constant emphasizing?

I'm not really sure what you mean. I was just helping you understand why people can't change sex.

This does raise consent issues surely. A man needs to know if he’s consenting to sex with another man, and not a “trans woman”…. I.e a man. This could have horrifying mental health consequences on men if they have no idea what sex they’re actually sleeping with…..

It does, and it's against the law to deceive people about your sex in order to sleep with them. Unsurprisingly Stonewall and other extremist trans activists have long campaigned to change this law.

Why should whatever is "encoded in our cells" matter in our everyday lives?
Are you really so utterly divorced from reality that you don't understand this?

What is encoded in our cells, our genetics (and epigenetics), has a massive input into who we are. Nurture has its place, but the raw material that nurture has to work on is our genes. If your genes don't tend towards height, even a good diet won't make you tall. Your genes have an impact on your intelligence, on your personality, even on how you stand and move. On the health problems that you are likely to encounter as you age. On when you go grey. On how fertile you are.

My cousin had breast cancer encoded in her cells. That had a pretty big impact on her everyday life for a while (and continues to do so, check-ups and so on).

I was so awestruck by your cluelessness that it took me a while to type this reply, and I am sure some better ones will have popped up already...

Anyone else just a tiny wee bit nostalgic for the days when TRA's came on here to tell us that of course they weren't saying human beings can literally change sex and we were just gaslighting/strawmanning/exaggerating to say that that was what was being said.

It at least was less frustrating than this flat earther vibe. * *

Do you think trans women do not face discrimination, prejudice or oppression due to their bodies, or the stereotypes and expectations imposed on them as either "men" or "women" alike?

I think that many trans people face these things because they are transgender and that biologically female trans people face misogyny and sexism like other members of their sex. I don't accept that males face the same stereotypes and expectations that women and girls do.

Right, violence is stored in the chromosomes, and other bioessentialist bullshit.

Trans women? Oh you mean men.

Do men who have cosmetic surgery to impersonate being a woman need to inform other biological men of this before they have sex?

This does raise consent issues surely. A man needs to know if he’s consenting to sex with another man, and not a “trans woman”…. I.e a man. This could have horrifying mental health consequences on men if they have no idea what sex they’re actually sleeping with…..

You literally throw a fit over the notion that some people might use the same words to describe themselves.

How is that not selfish?

So you keep on saying that recognizing sex is not important to trans people and women keep on telling you that it is essential for women. So why not concede that sex is relevant and gender not? You do realise that you are making trans people look incredibly selfish with this line of argument?