Michelle Obama uses Wonxn

BuckingFore · 2022-05-17T09:10:16+00:00

Oh so sad. Has great respect for her, have always thought she's never put a foot wrong. [[https://gazette.com/news/us-world/michelle-obama-overturning-roe-will-destroy-healthcare-for-womxn/article_8242b49c-88b8-5f7f-9014-0db398241dec.html https://gazette.com/news/us-world/michelle-obama-overturning-roe-will-destroy-healthcare-for-womxn/article_8242b49c-88b8-5f7f-9014-0db398241dec.html]]

moomintrolls · 18/05/2022 13:09

What was it that garnered the great respect from you?

FemaleAndLearning · 18/05/2022 12:51

I thought folx and womxn was by the TWAW brigade and womyn was used by feminists to avoid being 'of man'?

Slothtoes · 18/05/2022 12:17

Really don’t want to lose another hero, I really like her. Hope that she meant women (or wimmin!)

NellWilsonsWhiteHair · 18/05/2022 11:58

Neverreturntoathread · 17/05/2022 13:28

I’va always thought that attitude was daft.

Are we all humxns now?!

Man originally just meant homo saphien, from the Sanskrit manu (mankind) via the Old English wifman (a female human) and werman (a male human).

The use of man = a male person is relatively recent, and post-Norman invasion. I know buildings older than than 🤣

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I always assumed it was more about the symbolism, a bit of a provocation - a reminder of how easy and dangerous it is to assume male = default, and to flag that this (group, place, conversation, paradigm) is a consciously feminist one.

(I think the same of "herstory", which I know also sometimes upsets linguists!)

DaisyQuakeJohnson · 18/05/2022 00:03

The post is the writing under the image. It clearly says 'women' as does the statement from Barack.
The graphic Michelle shared used womxn but she obviously didn't create the graphic. The organisation that created the graphic is tagged.

MagnoliaTaint · 17/05/2022 22:33

KimikosNightmare · 17/05/2022 20:48

This has "women" and her name on it.

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Hm ... I am looking through what I think is the post and it doesn't use the word 'womxn' at all. Has it been rmoved?

www.instagram.com/p/Cdi8wdzLHPp/

Wifwolf · 17/05/2022 21:03

Time for a namechange, I think! I love feminist Mumsnetters and all their information.

KimikosNightmare · 17/05/2022 20:48

MagnoliaTaint · 17/05/2022 13:44

Here's the post. It uses 'women'.

www.instagram.com/p/CdG3q-qvrS1/

This has "women" and her name on it.

DaisyQuakeJohnson · 17/05/2022 20:15

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 17/05/2022 17:56

There are gc feminists who use womxn and womyn. They've been used since the 1970s - it's about erasing the 'men' part of women. And women having a word that doesn't reference men.

Are you sure, Daisy? I remember womyn being widely used among feminists in the 70s, and sometimes wimmin, as you say to avoid including man/men.
I don't remember seeing womxn -- not that that means it was never used, I just never happened to see it.

The daft thing is that womxn has started being used recently,
to include males. It would make more sense to have been used in the 70s to exclude males. But I've never spotted any logic in the trans movement ...

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Yy it wasn't nearly as popular as womyn but it was used occasionally. It looks like the TWAW crowd have claimed it now.

Brefugee · 17/05/2022 18:04

Modern feminists don't want to use our nasty 2nd wave ways though. More fool them

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 17/05/2022 17:56

DaisyQuakeJohnson · 17/05/2022 10:20

She used 'women' in her post. The 'womxn' spelling is in the graphic that was shared from elsewhere.

There are gc feminists who use womxn and womyn. They've been used since the 1970s - it's about erasing the 'men' part of women. And women having a word that doesn't reference men.

In most places its use predates any of the TRA/MRA bullshit.

There are gc feminists who use womxn and womyn. They've been used since the 1970s - it's about erasing the 'men' part of women. And women having a word that doesn't reference men.

Are you sure, Daisy? I remember womyn being widely used among feminists in the 70s, and sometimes wimmin, as you say to avoid including man/men.
I don't remember seeing womxn -- not that that means it was never used, I just never happened to see it.

The daft thing is that womxn has started being used recently,
to include males. It would make more sense to have been used in the 70s to exclude males. But I've never spotted any logic in the trans movement ...

PicniKTime · 17/05/2022 17:24

when people use ‘Womxn’ how is that even pronounced.

DaisyQuakeJohnson · 17/05/2022 17:22

iirc Hillary Clinton did an interview where her view seemed fairly gc and she admitted Chelsea felt differently from her.

I agree with @ArcheryAnnie Michelle Obama is not taking our rights away.
In fact she's likely to get a pile-on if certain groups notice she uses woman in her post.

EarringsandLipstick · 17/05/2022 14:25

Bloody app & it's weird formatting 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

EarringsandLipstick · 17/05/2022 14:25

Oh oops.

I a) crossposted with Brefugee* and b) didn't get the joke (whispers* not sure it really is one!)

MagnoliaTaint · 17/05/2022 14:24

Okay, a joke that clearly didn't take ...

EarringsandLipstick · 17/05/2022 14:23

We usually spell it 'wims' on here, but they are in the US.

No 'we ' don't 😂

It's always been 'whim'

MagnoliaTaint · 17/05/2022 14:23

That was a joke, Brefugee. We call women 'wims' on here, sometimes.

Brefugee · 17/05/2022 14:17

We usually spell it 'wims' on here, but they are in the US.

since when? Since never. If you're talking about, say, being spontaneous and doing "something on a whim" it absolutely has an 'h' in it.

ArcheryAnnie · 17/05/2022 13:49

DaisyQuakeJohnson · 17/05/2022 10:20

She used 'women' in her post. The 'womxn' spelling is in the graphic that was shared from elsewhere.

There are gc feminists who use womxn and womyn. They've been used since the 1970s - it's about erasing the 'men' part of women. And women having a word that doesn't reference men.

In most places its use predates any of the TRA/MRA bullshit.

Yup, this.

Honestly, Michelle Obama is not the one taking our rights away. Keep the blame where it belongs.

MagnoliaTaint · 17/05/2022 13:46

Maybe it's this that's caused confusion:

'it will relegate the most intensely personal decision someone can make to the whims of politicians and ideologues'

We usually spell it 'wims' on here, but they are in the US.

MagnoliaTaint · 17/05/2022 13:44

Here's the post. It uses 'women'.

www.instagram.com/p/CdG3q-qvrS1/

zanahoria · 17/05/2022 13:34

I have enough trouble without the typos

Neverreturntoathread · 17/05/2022 13:29

Spot the origin of werewolf 👀

Neverreturntoathread · 17/05/2022 13:28

DaisyQuakeJohnson · 17/05/2022 10:20

She used 'women' in her post. The 'womxn' spelling is in the graphic that was shared from elsewhere.

There are gc feminists who use womxn and womyn. They've been used since the 1970s - it's about erasing the 'men' part of women. And women having a word that doesn't reference men.

In most places its use predates any of the TRA/MRA bullshit.

I’va always thought that attitude was daft.

Are we all humxns now?!

Man originally just meant homo saphien, from the Sanskrit manu (mankind) via the Old English wifman (a female human) and werman (a male human).

The use of man = a male person is relatively recent, and post-Norman invasion. I know buildings older than than 🤣