Times: Girl ‘driven out of school for questioning trans ideology’

@GCRich - can't remember who said it (menopausal brain) but some straight TRA definitely said they considered that TWAW except for relationship purposes.

The story from the year 12 girls is very different to the one you have described.

And happened in a different month. So it's possibly a different school, and two schools have at least one girl driven to tears by mob mentality.

I didn't expect this would be a Catholic school. Gosh.

ScreamingMeMe

Some people (especially men) seem to get the sports issue, but hand-wave away the rest of it. It's odd.

I was speaking to a friend a week or two back, and he seemed to get the "sex with him" issue. ie TWAW apart from in his bed. He has a friend who has apparently always been trans, brought up as a girl, is a woman in every single way and woman need to budge up, be nice and not make a fuss. But obviously he - as a straight man - would never sleep with "her" because "she" is not the right kind of woman for a straight male.

I find it hard not to find his viewpoint absolute incredible in how hypocritical and despicable it is.

The sport is a biggie, but I get them impression than many people (especially men) get the "I don't engage in sex outside of my sexual orientation" part of this. A lot of straight men seem to have a big problem with gay sex full stop... but pretty much every straight man has a problem with gay sex for them! (and obviously straight men who don't have a problem with gay sex are bi not straight.)

I hope there are screenshots and archives of that tweet…

And that RMW has it in mind to issue an apology as soon as practical should RMW learn that there are grounds for the story (there already are). It would be gracious of RMW to publicly acknowledge the error even if the reflection on what drove RMW to consider it a fantasy remains private.

True. But the information that can be identified as a result is definitely the correct school. It's alarming to me that this incident can be so easily identified just from one weirdo idiot posting about it and leaving identifying information available to those that are curious enough to follow the trails.

It is possible that Lover of Dogs isn’t who she claims to be and that her daughter is completely made up.

Well that's cleared up which school, isn't it? Their sixth form centre is in its own building and doesn't always have a staff member in it so quite possible for all sorts to happen without supervision.

If I had £1 for every parent who tried to correct me about incidents that happened in school when they weren't there I'd be a very wealthy woman.
And would have retired from teaching by the age of 35

LOJ not having a great time of late.

This cartoon has been about for a while now, but no-one can identify the artist. I've been seeing it all over Twitter today.

It's easy to be spat on, albeit unintentionally, when someone is frenziedly shouting in your face.

"...she was confronted in conversation." Interesting formulation, the juxtaposition of confronted and conversation. But even in attempted denial, the language is telling: confronted.
Well, that says a lot, confirming she was confronted. Yet there is no anxiety about confronted, as there is about spitting: those girls would never spit. But confronting is deemed to be right and proper. Tell me: Why would she be confronted?

Not at all. It is for identifying children at risk from being groomed in to any kind of extremism. The training I had on it had a case study on far-right extremism.

Yes. I sat through the whole second half of my prevent training thinking ' this could apply to gender ideology and I could construct an entirely similar case study relating to that'. And then thinking, as Lang used to say, we've created a massive great safeguarding loophole by disallowing any safeguarding concerns to be raised about trans issues even when it could be trans children that are negatively effected. It's appalling.

‘Confronted in conversation’. Do you think that’s code for ‘encircled by a shouting pack of girls and screamed at until she broke down in tears’?

Oh well we know what school it is now! Lets go to great lengths to keep everything confidential, and then one of the parents gives the game away.

Interesting - well this should definitely be covered then.

Some people (especially men) seem to get the sports issue, but hand-wave away the rest of it. It's odd.

But 'Lover of dogs' has retweeted a few tweets which seemingly take the GC position re: trans people and women's sport. I wonder if she's thought much about the issue? As it seems oddly inconsistent to support this bullying of a young woman but (as it were) to have a GC stance on sports.

Well, good to see OJ is sympathetic and caring enough to want to hear this woman's point of view, and no doubt all about her thoughts on who should be deported, etc.

Quite.

There's this little nugget too, which is enlightening.

"Can I just say my daughter is at the school you are talking about. The story from the year 12 girls is very different to the one you have described. The school has the Stonewall society where discussions are held on a weekly basis. At no point would these girls spit either."

twitter.com/GspLuna/status/1526621020718776320?t=Tb2m_Gm5U-p4TKbhF8tAEw&s=19

(People are also saying that her daughter would be the wrong age?)

And crikey, that woman's timeline! Kinda racist 😕

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Looking at that woman's timeline, she is not a very pleasant person

As if the girls in question are going to admit to having spat at her.

This person also claims that the Times article wrongly states that the girl left in September, when it was in fact December. But the Times article says December. So someone's got poor literacy skills.