Inclusive Language - what on earth

I love how they have to explain that the product is "licenced for women of childbearing age" so it's all the fault of stupid old fashioned medical standards boards and their unkind stance on biological reality.

I'm genuinely alarmed at the generation that is being raised to hide behind stark truth with a comfort blankie of vague words and kindness. How are they going to cope when life, as it inevitably does, throws a shitstorm of harsh reality at you? Cancer, dementia, depression, unemployment, bereavement, general disappointment and unfairness- these can't be magicked away by pretending things aren't what they actually are. And how do people spoonfed word salads properly comprehend conveyancing when buying a property, or a job contract?

Umm i feel a campaign coming on

Some people are female. Deal with it.

No one wants the scented ones. They’re all bought by panicked men dispatched from the maternity ward to buy maternity pads. Instead the mother of their newborn child will receive a pack of Always scented for extra thrush, a pack of Tena lady pants with lacy bits and some liners which might see some use in a year once everything goes back to some semblance of normal.

This is because those items are prominently displayed so easy to grab while the much wanted plain maternity pads are ‘hidden’ on the bottom shelf in basic white packaging.

(This is my theory and I’m sticking to it).

put him in a female sphere against his will

Ah. Well, your sex (like your height and eye colour) isn’t actually determined by willpower. Maybe that’s where they are going wrong.

If you were confident in your choices you wouldn't need paragraphs of nonsense explaining why you cant use a word.

Who are you selling the pill to?

The only reason for this need to separate the word " woman" from anythingvto do with human female biology has nothing to do with including females who do not identify as women , but everything to do with not excluding males who , if the word " woman" means someone with female biology , can't say they too are exactly the same as other women. This is why nobody in the trans activists' community is demanding changing the use of " man" in a medical context, because nobody cares about females who identify as men! All about the patriarchy, even when they say they are women.

If the product is medically licenced for "women of childbearing age" then surely they are not licenced to have it distributed to anyone who is not a woman.

It doesn't need extra language to include everyone it's intended for.

But you can get unscented sanitary products?

I think if they continue to sell them that way it must be because some people want them.

"Some people say that 'AFAB’ (assigned female at birth) is the best term to use because it focuses on biological sex rather than gender identity."

Hilarious. Well yeah... a term to refer to people of the female biological sex would be useful, he?

WOMEN

We used to have a word for that. ^^

I agree @nepeta it's maddening and frustrating when you realise how sidelined we are, like beetles on our backs.

I read in another thread how it was demonstrated when sanitary towel packs had any reference to women on them removed at the suggestion that they could upset a trans person, but women requested they remove the air freshener scenting has been ignored forever.

Beetles on our backs, indeed @TopKnotch. I

t's interesting whose opinions count the most today. Male ones, obviously over female ones (race and class may change that but if we compare two otherwise identical people the male will usually be heard first). But now we have an intermediate category of trans and nonbinary individuals, and their opinions do count more than the opinions of women in places like the UK Labour and Green Parties or in the Guardian etc.

I know that trans people face harassment and even assaults, and I deplore those and want them halted. But the solution is not to take away women's rights as a compensation scheme. Yet that seems the plan.

In any case, the term has nothing to do with TERFs but is entirely created by liberal inclusive feminists who thought the x made it inclusive to all who wanted to be in the group (no entry requirements). Also for nonbinaries who don't want to be called 'women' but are female and want the gains women's movement might produce.

It's not a gender critical term at all, and trans women hate it as they see themselves already members of 'women'.

I can't get over realising that language is changed even if only one or two trans men or nonbinary-identifying people don't like the ordinary words used for centuries. I wish I had that kind of power. Indeed, I wish women had that kind of power.

This is the second time this tyranny of the minority is explained as "some trans people don't like 'female' so we can't use it." The first time I saw this it was said about the question who might menstruate, and then it was a trans woman who objected...

Very much this. The men's organizations say politely but firmly why they can't accept some requests. The women's organizations bend over backwards and offer their firstborns, too, just so that they aren't called TERFs.

The actual numbers of nonbinary and trans men who are on the pill must pale in comparison to the rest of us. Which market share matters most to this company? I get that there are women who like the virtue signaling aspect of this until they peak, but every day they are a few less.

Well they're fucked. They can't even say women and transmen because in gender land transwomen come under the term 'women'. And you can't say non-binary because that could be a man.

If you deny sex exists, you going struggle to market sex specific drugs.

Actually that whole article could have been reduced to one sentenced.

Whatever words we use, someone will be upset.

Jake suggested ‘people who can get pregnant’ as an alternative.

This is the worst suggestion of the lot, imo. There is no way of accurately knowing who can get pregnant at any point in time. Women who have gotten pregnant at the drop of a hat can experience fertility problems. And vice-versa, as we've seen from many a thread on MN. It's extremely unhelpful language and helps perpetuate the myth that any woman can control whether and when they conceive. (Obviously you can have a good idea, and being on contraception should reduce the risk, but nothing is 100%).