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BBC Sport: ‘Protect Women’s Sport,’ say two British elite athletes

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NotBadConsidering · 09/05/2022 21:59

https://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/61332123

Another two amazing women

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ThatLibraryMiss · 09/05/2022 22:45

scientific research demonstrating that the athletic capabilities of transgender women are not comparable to those of cisgender men

It also demonstrates that the athletic capabilities of transgender women are not comparable to those of women, doesn't it? So if it shows that they shouldn't be competing against men why doesn't it also show that they shouldn't be competing against women?

I mean, I know it does. But why don't Athlete Ally understand that?

334bu · 09/05/2022 22:43

So no research unless it shows what we want it to show ! 🤔

NotBadConsidering · 09/05/2022 22:38

Canada is one of the worst.

But I would hope that idiots like that don’t get a say. World Athletics, the UCI, World Rugby, FINA, etc are slowly making their rules that fit with what we all know, and if Canada and Canadians want to protest that in their own country’s court, have fun. Meanwhile in the rest of the world women will get to keep their sports single sex.

I am so grateful to these two British athletes and I understand why they want to remain anonymous, and it’s a sad indictment on the abuse they’d receive should they speak openly.

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JellySaurus · 09/05/2022 22:33

Perhaps they'd prefer the terms penis-havers, ejaculators or Y-chromosome-owners.

Helleofabore · 09/05/2022 22:16

That is really heartening.

But notbad have you seen this?

twitter.com/cathydevine56/status/1523742225850834945?s=21&t=3VWJtIdV_33uZDGXSoClag

www.athleteally.org/scholars-athletes-condemn-sport-canadas-funding-of-anti-trans-research/

Athlete Ally, 200+ Scholars and Athletes Condemn Sport Canada’s Funding of Anti-Trans Research

May 9, 2022 — Athlete Ally and 200+ members of the academic and sport communities, including Olympians Quinn and Erin McLeod, sent a letter to Sport Canada in response to their financial support of an anti-transgender research survey. Led by Catherine Devine, the Canadian High Performance Athletes 1 survey perpetuates discriminatory views of transgender athletes and a clear violation of the Tri-Council Policy Statement, which mandates that researchers respect the dignity of human subjects.

Throughout the survey, Devine uses the term “biological males”, code for a trans-exclusionary position, which deliberately demeans and devalues trans women’s identities and humanity and ignores scientific research demonstrating that the athletic capabilities of transgender women are not comparable to those of cisgender men. This language injects a clear bias used to prime participants for answering questions. Priming is widely recognized amongst survey researchers as biasing the responses of survey participants and compromising the validity of the resulting findings.

so good that more and more women are breaking their silence. Because this is getting more and more bizarre. Now the push to remove the scientific based language to do appropriate research.

We cannot use the term males to describe for research? And we were told that sex was no longer being denied…. And that they acknowledged they weren’t females? Yeah…. Sure.