The Assassination of Amber Heard

I am finding this whole trial so incredibly depressing - I cannot imagine what Amber Heard is going through. I cannot imagine how one can recover from such a public traumatic experience - she and her baby daughter are receiving death threats. I was a big Depp fan in the past but cannot stand him now. I’m trying to avoid it on social media as much as possible but there are a couple of websites covering it which seem more balanced (eg oh no they didn’t) and there was an interesting post on a Reddit forum which is not rabidly pro-Depp as most of them are (below) What I find particularly demoralising is how quickly people are willing to believe things which are demonstrably false and start stating it as fact www.reddit.com/r/Deuxmoi/comments/ukgxe8/list_of_ahjd_abuse_myths_debunked/

Bonnes yes I have begun to watch.

I can't get over how everyone seems to
gloss over raping her with a glass bottle.

I'm sure she retaliated. He's detailed some awful stuff. He clearly love bombed her too.

Yes the UK judge said it was substantially true to call him a wife beater, and that 12 cases of domestic violence towards her were proven.
As a pp said, perhaps she does have MH issues, maybe they were there before, maybe not. However, domestic abuse can certainly cause a lot of trauma and could trigger or exacerbate existing MH problems.

Correct.

But this is a different trial, in a different country, with different admissible evidence, different defendant, different witnesses, different testimonies, different charges (counts), different focus and different information that has come to light since.

Yes, there's a 129 page document that lists everything he was found guilty of

This is exactly what's wrong. Have you watched the trial footage? If not, how can you be so sure that JD is guilty of DARVO that you will state it on a forum, when everything seen so far in the trail suggests it's actually the other way round?

I haven’t watched the coverage as I find it distasteful. ive been really disturbed by the pile on towards Amber, especially some of the threads on here

A lot if this started a long time ago. There were videos about her on YouTube, framing him as the wronged one and her as the perpetrator before the Sun case.

Thanks domestic, this is the article I've needed to read.

The abuse of Amber by social media has been relentless and pushed I feel when I'm not seeking it; obviously algorithms are remembering what I've looked at. But I also feel when I've then actively sought pro Amber stuff, the algorithm isn't catching on (unless there's just not much.)

I had no interest till I began to realise the misogynistic slant taken.

There's a similarly shite slant against Megan and Harry at the moment; I set up a new non work non feminist twitter just to follow art stuff and for some reason have been pushed loads of anti Megan stuff.

Yesterday on trending there was a newspaper article laying out the worst of it, the bottle, and barely any likes or interaction.

Yes she's then been vile back, I can understand how angry shes been and it clearly became a toxic relationship. Which he's been able to use in his DARVO.

@BonnesVacances yes I completely agree. I also think that the vast majority of people commenting on it are just jumping on the band wagon and actually don't have a clue about the ins and outs of the case.
It's nice to be on a thread with polite debate for once!

I think it is clear that Amber Heard has serious mental health problems rather than being an 'awful' person as so many posts suggest.

Agree. And there will be huge swathes of people blindly supporting JD and attacking AH for daring to speak about him.

What makes it tricky is that there is so much evidence out there that disproves what she's saying. So it will be very difficult to separate out the rational views on the case with the ignorant and misogynistic.

Which is why the whole thing is so damaging to women and victims of DV.

What needs acknowledging though is that JD is on the receiving end of the anger about this because he is responsible for the court case. But we should look at the cause for the case (ie the op-ed), not how someone reacted to it.

It doesn't matter which party is male or female.

I can separate all those issues out. But I do recognise that the vast majority on social media with opinions on this case can't.

@BonnesVacances whilst I agree that people shouldn't be commenting on it, I think it's important for people to stand up and say how ridiculously unfair the trial has been so far in terms of how both people have been treated.

From day one Amber has been crucified not only by the media but by a huge majority of Depp fans on social media. Despite the fact he already lost the first case and most of the abuse has been admitted/evidenced he is being treated like a god with fans bowing down at his feet. Whereas Amber who has also been accused of abuse is getting hate/ death threats etc from every direction.

It worries me that after all the #metoo movements and such strides forward for women that people still seem to look more favourably on men in these situations.

I'm getting to the stage that I think the only people who should comment on this trial are those who've actually watched it.

It's not men vs women. Or male DV victims vs female. Or who is the most abused.

It's who is telling the truth. And that is based on evidence produced at the trial.

And people are capable of watching that and deciding for themselves.

Anyone who has an opinion without having seen it is just nailing their colours to whichever mast suits their viewpoint.

...and no, this isn't how justice should work.
They are being held to different standards. Misogyny in full effect.

AH had been treated terribly. No-one is perfect and it tells us that unless a woman is "perfect" she will never be believed.
Of course she is allowed to fight back, to defend herself. I think she is very brave to go through this.
His descriptions match those of a violent relationship, with shouting and violence from both parties.
However, her description is of an abusive relationship where she loved him, wanted to help him but was scared of him and what he would do. His best argument is that it is mutual abuse.
I believe her.

Hear hear

Both Heard & Depp give every impression of being utterly loathsome individuals who entirely deserved one another. I do not believe either of them, I hope both their careers are destroyed and I hope the lawyers manage to string out this self-destructive litigation for as long as necessary to bleed both of them dry.

You may not be 17 but you’re certainly more naive than many 17 year olds I know. I truly despair at attitudes like this. It’s easy to see why so many people, especially women, have such a low bar for relationships. You support him in this. It’s just baffling.

Thanks for starting thread of sanity. It’s been a horrible week.

@NewCharacterUnlocked because I genuinely think he’s a victim. I don’t think he’s innocent but I do think her abuse was far more manipulative and awful. So out of the case, I would support Depp.

I don’t have Tiktok, I’m not 17.

I haven’t fallen for marketing I’ve watched it and seen how awful she is. Unfortunately she’s a crazy piece of shit. That’s the end for me.

he’s also grim, I don’t support his general being. Great actor but that’s as far as it goes for me. But I support him in this because I cannot stand her existence.

Ffs. soaking IT all up