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Insanely good article by Judith Woods avout the Woman's Place meeting

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Mumsnut · 08/05/2022 09:05

Here's the intro:

Ayoung woman with aquamarine hair is striding around with a megaphone leading a call and response, as a policewoman watches from a distance on a Bristol street.
“Trans rights are human rights!”
The motley crowd of students answer as one: “Trans rights are human rights!”
“Protect trans students!”

“Protect trans students!” they parrot.
Then she gets a little over-aerated: “Terfs can suck my boy d---.”

Nobody says a word, they just shuffle uncomfortably.
Terfs, in case you don’t know, are “trans-exclusionary radical feminists”. This loosely translates as “any woman who doesn’t want some bloke claiming to be a lady joining her in the changing rooms in Monsoon, or a boy saying he’s a girl sharing a tent and, quite possibly, a shower with their daughter at a summer camp started by former PM David Cameron.”
In effect, Terfs are those who disagree with the militant orthodoxy that anyone “identifying” as a woman must have full access to single-sex spaces – be they public loos, rape crisis refuges, female prisons or women’s sport.
Sensing she might be losing her crowd, Aquamarine then reels her angry acolytes back with a more familiar incantation: “Trans women are women!”
A woman in a Harris tweed coat passing by catches my eye, pauses and observes with perfect timing: “But they’re not, are they?”

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cloudcats · 08/05/2022 09:43

Brilliant article thank you :)

Signalbox · 08/05/2022 09:38

Thanks OP.

SpinningTooFastIWantToGetOff · 08/05/2022 09:24

@BuanoKubiamVej

"yes it's behind a paywall but it's important that the journalists and newspapers bringing light and air to these issues get to be paid for their work in my opinion."

Sorry!

SpinningTooFastIWantToGetOff · 08/05/2022 09:21

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We've deleted this post as it contains a lengthy article copied from behind a paywall which isn't really on.

Mumsnut · 08/05/2022 09:19

It is behind a paywall. And if I quote the whole thing, Mumsnet will delete it, Buano. I was hoping that someone would have a bright idea ...

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Hoardasurass · 08/05/2022 09:15

@Mumsnut do you have a link to the article

BuanoKubiamVej · 08/05/2022 09:14

Thanks for pointing out the article but I think its poor manners to do so and to quote paragraphs without providing a link.

It's here: www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2022/05/08/welcome-insane-world-identity-politics/ and yes it's behind a paywall but it's important that the journalists and newspapers bringing light and air to these issues get to be paid for their work in my opinion.

oviraptor21 · 08/05/2022 09:13

Where is the article?

Mumsnut · 08/05/2022 09:08

Then there's this bit:

I might not have understood the strength of animosity she faced were I not running the gamut myself, with a bug-eyed youth following and repeatedly photographing me. When I ask him to identify himself, he tells me it’s none of my business. He is just “gathering intelligence”. But none of this is intelligent.

The article then includes a photo of the youth in question - pure genius!

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