Anyone else left wing and gender critical?

This. Exactly this.

Absolutely 100%. This "it's only right wing Stepford wives" nonsense doesn't stand up to scrutiny. As with all TRA drivel, the slightest contact with sunlight exposes it as cultish bullshit

Oh, forgot my pic. This was on the sidebar of Reddit's r/GenderCritical for a while. Not sure I'd 100% agree with it, but I think it's somewhat useful.

Found it on this older Mumsnet thread on a similar topic: Gender critical or Gender reactionary?

Is the problem here a misunderstanding of the term "gender critical"?

That's specifically about over-emphasis on "gender", with it being a construct that oppresses based on sex. Prior to this fight, people like Maya were involved with campaigns like "Let Toys Be Toys" - fighting against pink/blue-ification of children's stuff. That's "gender critical".

So naturally gender-critical feminists are against gender-identity ideology.

But simply being against gender-identity ideology isn't sufficient to make you gender critical.

Lots of right wingers are against gender-identity ideology, and wouldn't have a problem with pink/blue coding of toys per sex, so are not gender critical.

I think the gender critical pushback against this stuff in the UK has been so successful that for some it's ending up as the "generic" name for any sort of pushback. But it ends up misapplied, like "TERF" - many of whom are not remotely radical feminists.

There s a lot of us, mostly over a certain age , or got siblings who are identifying as trans.

I'm voting Labour btw. I think they're wrong on trans rights but I think everything is wrong about the Tories and they're doing such harm to the most vulnerable. I'll never vote for them.

I also think the use of ‘far right’ in this context (and a few others) has become a way to shut down discussion.

So many GC posters are obviously no where near far right on these boards, it’s a very strange claim.

I’ve had it used against me by a somewhat stuck pp but they misunderstand generally and try to close discussion

I’m a strong remainer (although have moved on so don’t post about Brexit too much) didn’t want Trump to win but look to state spending as a gauge. Probably more central than others posting but the term far right gets bandied about like confetti.

I agree with your political beliefs. I'm also GC.

I think that TRAs are using words like fascist and reactionary to make us question our opinion. Right at the start of all of this I remember saying to a friend that I couldn't understand how I had come to be on the 'wrong' side of this argument having always been so right on!

In fact as things have developed I think we have the liberal progressive view and theirs is the reactionary one. The idea that it you want to look more androgynous or masculine as a woman that your are, in fact, in the wrong body. That women are reduced to tits, big hair and make up. It's just really weird finding myself nodding at the Daily Mail sometimes.

Very left wing and relatively newly GC over here OP.

Agree with PPs about the feelings of political homelessness- lifelong Labour voter and would rather eat a turd than give my vote to the Conservatives, however until Labour can publicly state that a woman is an adult human female and demonstrate they understand why single sex spaces are vital for women then they won't be getting my vote. My area is always majority blue anyway.

In contrast to the op I get the impression some care about many issues as long as it’s not to do with women.

Maybe it’s a devaluation of women

Every GC woman and man I know is on the political left.

I feel like either, as a society, we've lost sight of what left and right wing mean (people seem to use "right wing" to mean "selfish and bigoted" and "left wing" to mean "tolerant and kind", when I feel like the political definitions are more to do with distribution of wealth) or maybe we're clinging onto the idea of traditional left/right wing politics when it's just not relevant any more.

It's not just landowners and labourers, factory owners and workers, these days. There's a huge variety of different self-employed circumstances (some very lucrative, others really not) there are poorly paid professional jobs (mostly public sector) and there are very well paid trade skills.

Women's rights are still intrinsically linked to wealth potential, hence why most feminists I know tend to be left-leaning politically. And of those, some have fully absorbed the "left wing means tolerant and kind" message, and therefore automatically support everything and anything a "marginalised" group demand. But for some of us, left wing means standing up for yourself and your rights, even in the face of those more powerful. And we absolutely do not support throwing women's rights down the drain.

I know lots of left wing people who are pro brexit. I know lots of right wing people who are feminists and anti war. I have never met anyone on either side of the political spectrum who thinks poverty is a good thing. I think you have just discovered one of your political views isn’t considered very nice by some people. It has nothing to do with left or right.

Totally left wing. Totally politically homeless.

But those ‘fascists’ don’t own the left. I think it’s perfectly possible to be left wing while thinking that many people who say they are on the same side are bonkers. I haven’t moved to the centre on economics or social issues as a result of the current insanity, and I won’t say I have just because I don’t have much time for Owen Jones.

Left wing as well, have been all my life but I tore up my labour membership card recently. I'm also politically homeless.

TBH my primary politics involves sharing the wealth, well funded services, equality. I'm bored that the Labour Party ALWAYS get bogged down in infighting over every little cause there is. They lose the main thread.

That said there's no way I'd vote Tory, I'd rather stick pins in my eyes.

I know so many left wing women who are GC. We're a secret bunch though. Almost whispering our views for fear of being called a bigot. So so sad.

You are not alone by a long shot, I am very left wing and my stances on the things you mentioned are exactly the same and I am very strongly GC. It's devastating when you see left wing people who seem to care about everything but womens rights.

I am not voting Tory but I can't bring myself to vote labour either and I've voted labour all my life. Luckily I don't have to vote in the upcoming local elections and hope that labour will find their backbone before the next general election.

I spoiled my ballot last time round.

I'm left wing BUT I don't like a LOT of the left wing buzzwords and talking points and I do think that 'wokism' is a curse. I don't want to automatically support a cause just because it's 'left wing'. I've had friends say to me 'I'm really surprised about your views on trans rights as you're such a leftie' and it's so annoying as if there is one correct 'left wing' view on every subject and you can't have dissenting views or you become a Tory or something.
I think it's fine to criticise the hard left in politics as a lot of them have lost their damn minds on womens rights. That doesn't make me no longer left wing.

I've voted against the Tories this week, because overall I think they're doing so much damage to the country. In my area, that means Labour, even if I don't like their views on gender.

Not a great choice.

Me. That's why I can't stand all of this "I vote Tory because Labour don't even know what a woman is" MN nonsense.

Yep. Very similar views to you.

OP - I have seen woke being criticised on here and I am wondering if this is where you are coming from. The more extreme elements of BLM, XR and TRAs are often seen as woke and are off putting to many people including those that are left wing. The aggressive XR tweet calling GC women terfs that others have shared is an example of what puts many people off this group. Many see XR activists in the same way they see TRAs.

This is my impression (not sure if it's correct) on the question of political alignment and being GC:

The concept originally comes from 2nd wave feminism(?)

It used to strongly criticise gender roles, rules, and stereotypes because they can be used to keep women the subjugated sex. (Here 'gender' is defined as the way cultures translate biological sex into accepted forms of behaviour, personality traits, legal rights and legal duties etc. depending on the sex of an individual.)

That concept of being gender critical is the one I think most feminists on the left apply to the gender identity ideology. Others who later joined that group adopted the GC label but may or may not agree with the above feminist take. So in some sense the GC label no longer is attached to its original definition but simply refers to those who have questions about the impact of the most fervent trans activism on women's rights.

I won't vote Labour over the Grooming Gang issue, as well as Labour's stance on womens issues/GC etc
Yet again we see another horrific slavery/trafficking of a child trial going through the courts ATM. What would Labour do about it? Probably ignore it, again