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Where are women allowed to discuss issues pertaining to identity and representation?

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Robinni · 01/05/2022 22:12

I am not posting to be controversial.

And PLEASE do not be controversial yourself if responding. It will get the whole thread deleted.

I have responded to two threads now on MN which have had trans in the title, the most recent one has been deleted and I believe others have been as well, due to people being abusive and the like from both sides.

I am interested in feminism, women’s rights, allyship to trans women and how this works while protecting women’s rights, female identity, equality and so forth.

Where exactly are women able to discuss issues relative to their place in society if they are shut down even on a website that is specifically for women and mothers.

Do women have a place anymore? Where is it?

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Robinni · 01/05/2022 22:48

Feel quite frustrated with it, I genuinely didn’t even know I was still allowed to say “woman” in a discussion earlier, thought I had to say cis woman to be politically correct.

My DS went through a phase of wanting to be a girl and having issue with parts of his bits and pieces. My immediate thought was thank god he is not in school yet so he can’t be brain washed into getting rid of it all 🙄.

All I see everywhere is language being changed and things changing to be more inclusive, but I don’t see anyone sticking up for female rights. Or have any clue how we would go about putting forward views, in terms of what is happening for ourselves, or concerns about what our children are liable to be exposed too (i.e. influenced to not love themselves as they are, or put in danger with male access to changing rooms).

I am not radical or against anyone due to their identity. Everyone should be entitled to express themselves as they see fit. Just wondering how women are to retain their identity, feel safe and support their children? And I don’t want to be referred to as a “person” who breastfeeds/gives birth/menstruates… I am a woman.

So where do women meet to discuss issues and do something about it? Organisations?

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AMBE123 · 01/05/2022 22:44

I don't know, I think it's such a heated issue now and everything in society seems to have become polarised. People can't have respectful discussions where they learn from other people's viewpoints anymore, on many issues.
I am a lesbian and had an initial feeling about some of these issues but have changed my views. I won't say much though because I'll be jumped on, especially on boards here, and I can't be bothered to have to deal with conflict in my leisure time.

Maybe facts and figures can be quoted to show the actual facts rather than emotional / fear responses, but otherwise people believe what they believe and will seek out opinions and articles that back up what they think so it's just an echo chamber.

I do have discussions with very close friends.

There was a program on Channel 4 the other night that interviewed several women on their experiences and views and touched on some of these issues. "Where have all the lesbians gone'".

TheSillyMastiff · 01/05/2022 22:31

Nowhere, we are being erased. I'm really not sure where we go from here.

I'm fed up of being shouted down, so I don't bother anymore. Selfishly I have one son so don't have to worry about this for my immediate future generations, my only hope is he goes on to have sons. Sad but true.

Robinni · 01/05/2022 22:13

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