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Student midwives at a Scottish university taught that men can give birth

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Clymene · 28/04/2022 09:07

Look at this absolute nonsense:

According to the workbook, students were advised: “It is important to note that while most times the birthing person will have female genitalia, you may be caring for a pregnant or birthing person who is transitioning from male to female and may still have external male genitalia.”
https://reduxx.info/exclusive-midwifery-students-taught-how-to-care-for-males-giving-birth/

In a teaching workbook for midwifery students.

I just can't deal with so much stupid.

OP posts:
Blogblogblogblog · 28/04/2022 17:42

….Ooh and The Daily Mail has the story now

MoltenLasagne · 28/04/2022 17:40

FFS, I opened this thread expecting it to be about transmen but no, it is even stupider than I assumed.

Honestly, any university prescribing textbooks saying men with a penis and prostate can give birth should lose their accreditation to teach midwifery, medicine, in fact anything grounded in human biology.

Blogblogblogblog · 28/04/2022 17:38

There’s an article just been published in The Times and Napier University which presumably is what this is from - unless there’s more?!?

Plieandchassus · 28/04/2022 17:37

This is heartbreaking. These young would-be midwives will hold the lives of women and infants in their hands in a few years’ time.

How can the lecturers on this course - who I presume are trained experienced midwives themselves - possibly condone this?

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 28/04/2022 17:33

Ooh! Forgot it was Little Nicky! Send a copy to her and demand she explains how the fuck that works!!

52andblue · 28/04/2022 17:33

I live in Scotland with my daughter (& also my son). I find this terrifying.

FrancescaContini · 28/04/2022 17:32

Men can’t give birth. Fact.

Bewaldeth · 28/04/2022 17:29

Ooo yes Samphire, that would be marvellous. Oh to be a fly on the wall in that office!

Cismyfatarse · 28/04/2022 17:29

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 28/04/2022 17:26

FFS!

Hopefully someone sent a copy to the Baroness, let her go to town on it!

Lord Winston too.

Sadly it is from McWokeville so Nicola and Humza are to blame.

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 28/04/2022 17:26

FFS!

Hopefully someone sent a copy to the Baroness, let her go to town on it!

Lord Winston too.

Cismyfatarse · 28/04/2022 17:20

Viviennemary · 28/04/2022 09:21

I just looked up the link. I reckon it's a hoax.

I know a bit about this. Not a hoax. Absolutely true.

PonyPatter44 · 28/04/2022 17:18

bellinisurge · 28/04/2022 17:08

OP, oh ffs. They are just so fucking ridiculous. How are we supposed to "be kind" and "be respectful" about that level of stupid shit.

Completely agree. This is moronic, and any so-called educator who wrote or stood by this bollocks needs their head examining.

Blogblogblogblog · 28/04/2022 17:13

drinkingwineoutofamug that cartoon is the only correct response really, isn’t it?! Gave me a good laugh.

PermanentTemporary · 28/04/2022 17:12

I was so sure it had to be a hoax. Surely. But... clearly the commenters asked about the provenance and were convinced enough to comment?

nepeta · 28/04/2022 17:11

I still can't believe that this would have been true. It must have been a hoax, or if it is not a hoax the level of understanding about biology is frighteningly low among those writing instruction for students in midwifery, and that option makes me extremely frightened, as the patients will be affected by all this.

bellinisurge · 28/04/2022 17:08

OP, oh ffs. They are just so fucking ridiculous. How are we supposed to "be kind" and "be respectful" about that level of stupid shit.

DomesticatedZombie · 28/04/2022 17:05

It's the Mr Potato-Head school of Nursing again, isn't it?

Clymene · 28/04/2022 17:04

bellinisurge · 28/04/2022 17:03

Are they just being shit and imprecise when what they mean is so-called transmen who have a fake penis made out their arm skin.

Nope, because they talk about the prostate.

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bellinisurge · 28/04/2022 17:03

Are they just being shit and imprecise when what they mean is so-called transmen who have a fake penis made out their arm skin.

Lynnthesearesexnotgenderpeople · 28/04/2022 17:00

This can't be right? Like, OK, the whole 'men can give birth too you know' is complete bollocks, but at least we know they are talking about females.

In what possible scenario would a midwife be catheterising a penis? There must be a mistake somewhere surely?

Unless this is all some kind of elaborate hoax coming from people who are trying to normalise the idea that 'men' (females) give birth, by putting out batshittery like this and making it look sane in comparison!

Fairislefandango · 28/04/2022 16:32

Bwahahahahaa fuckinghahahahahaha!

I mean - argh. But - hahahahahaha!

Yep, that about sums it up for me!

MarshmallowSwede · 28/04/2022 16:23

Explain to me how if someone has a dick they are giving birth.

Is this why Scottish men don’t wear underwear underneath their kilt? In case a baby falls out of their balls?

If this is what they are teaching midwives in Scotland then I would hate to give birth their.. if they actually believe a penis can birth a baby then you’re not going to get the best care. This is insane.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 28/04/2022 15:55

I applaud Susan Bewley for her remarkable restraint in commenting on this.

FannyCann · 28/04/2022 13:42

Looks like David Lammy wrote this one after he re-watched Jurassic Park.

Ah. That'll be the explanation. @tabbycatstripy has the answer. Grin

ThomasPenman · 28/04/2022 13:30

Viviennemary · 28/04/2022 09:21

I just looked up the link. I reckon it's a hoax.

Milli Hill has written about it. The whistleblowers contacted her in March.

millihill.substack.com/p/people-with-penises-dont-have-babies?utm_source=%2Fprofile%2F12356433-milli-hill&utm_medium=reader2&s=r

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