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How to respond to anti JKR teen DDs

57 replies

MmeMeursault · 24/04/2022 12:37

It's happened - the usually very sensible and feminist teen DDs have uttered the "JKR is transphobic and so must you be if you're supporting her" line, which of course is bollocks in both respects, but I'm so very bloody tired and peri-menopausal I just can think straight to come out with a suitable response to nip this nonsense in the bud.

Please suggest some suitable responses....

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Sylfia · 24/04/2022 12:46

In v similar situation I said oh yes, I read about that too so I looked up her essay. It seemed okay to me. Have you seen it?
One thing I have read is that "nudging" rather than full on disagreement - starting from the position that I'm right and you're wrong - works better when arguing this kind of tribal position.

AlisonDonut · 24/04/2022 12:45

'Oh, how so?'

FOJN · 24/04/2022 12:44

I would tell them it's important to know their own minds which means doing their own research rather than adopting the opinions of friends in order to fit in. Being right and being popular are often very different things. Ask them to read JKR's essay and tell you where the transphobia is.

www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/

Fairislefandango · 24/04/2022 12:43

Dd16 and I know we disagree on this. We mostly avoid talking about it, but she knows my opinion. She'll come round, eventually. Probably. Ask them if they can point out to you anything that JKR's said which is actually transphobic. Point out some of the horrific hate and threats directed at her by TRAs and ask them if that's what 'being kind'looks like. Ime there's no 'nipping it in the bud' though- you just have to wait for them to grow out of it.

outbackjulie · 24/04/2022 12:43

If you need help with your arguments how strong can your convictions be?

HalfShrunkMoreToGo · 24/04/2022 12:42

Ask her to show you the exact things that JKR has said that are transphobic. Not someone else's commentary but the actual text from JKR.

PenguindreamsofDraco · 24/04/2022 12:41

Have you read her essay? If not, go and read and we'll discuss.
If yes, which bits are transphobic in your opinion, and we'll discuss.

Well, that's how I'd like to think I'd respond 😀