Genital flattening underwear for four year old boys

They did them in Dec 2018

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6450485/Trans-activists-send-free-breast-binders-13-year-olds.html

They may well be restrictive and uncomfortable. They would certainly create some local overheating to the point where I'd be concerned about the need for regular, scrupulous hygiene to manage skin inflammation (intertrigo with any associated infection) that can occur with skin compressed on skin. (Same happens with breast binding.)

I've been waiting for this. Hope they do binders next.

Gosh. So much money to be made.

Infertile from 4 to validate adults.

Ffs 😡

And agree absolutely with @PurgatoryOfPotholes - why encourage a little boy to think about the outline of his genitals? Who even CONSIDERS this themselves let alone talking to a very small child about it? 🤮😡

I actually feel very sick reading this. It’s abusive. The thought of putting your four year old son in pants to “flatten” his genitals…it’s horrifying. 😡

I honestly feel like I might be sick. Who is putting their child in painful underwear? Parenting is about cutting out itchy labels!

And who is focusing on the silhouette of a child's pelvis? Young children would not do this without coaching from adults. Why would a little boy seek to emulate the shape of little girls in such detail? He would have to have the differences pointed out to him first. Who would encourage a little boy to look at male and female peers and scrutinise their crotches for differences?

I dearly hope that this business has never sold any pants in the smallest size!

💓 the Baroness

Surely putting these on a child who is 'unhappy with their genitals' would constitute physical and sexual abuse?

Needed? That's the heartbreaking aspect of this, isn't it?

Parents who are unhappy with the sex if their child? Who maybe see their child stepping outside those stereotypes and pushing hard on that? Parents who are living their own dreams through their kids?

Whatever it is it isn't for the benefit of any child that young!

My ex work colleague who has long supported her son in his trans journey (started at about 8 years old) has recently gone very quiet. Having supported her new daughter, middle child, one of three boys, she has just had to be very grateful she didn't get to the front of the queue for any medical intervention. Her son has now decided that it is too much hassle being a girl and he, now 14, wants to play football and maybe have a girlfriend after all.

Who knows how he will choose to live his life, but he probably could have been just as happy if left to be a boy who wore a dress sometimes and had very long hair. But I suspect my colleague really was gaining something from him being trans. Which is ineffably sad.

Won't they hurt?

Why is this needed? Who thought this was a good thing?!

I'm glad the baroness is on it because its not new.

Here is a thread about similar underwear and 'penis packers' for little girls.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3531622-4thWaveNow-has-some-incredibly-disturbing-stuff-from-Facebook?reply=85598697

No 4 year-old is EVER going to think this out themselves. Any nursery or school spotting these, has to be reporting the parents for psychological abuse, never mind physical abuse.

ALL these people are EVER doing is attempting to validate their own life-choice by trying to drag others along with them. If they were absolutely positive that they had made the right choice, they wouldn’t be this insecure, they’d just get on with whatever life they’d chosen.

'Each product is here to provide children with the stepping stones to finding themselves, in a supportive, validating experience.’
It adds: ‘We are here to provide gender expression products for trans girls and non-binary children in aim [sic] of finding their true, authentic self.’

that designer is peddling the absolute worst kind of invalidating nonsense.

let’s teach children that the way to find themselves is to buy products that alter your body. That’s a great idea.

throwing words like ‘authentic’ around, while promoting the idea that people need to change or contort their bodies is dangerous newspeak.

Also in that article:

"Stephanie Davies-Arai, of campaign group Transgender Trend, said: ‘The fact that a child is sexualised in this way and their sexual parts are treated according to adult ideas, is abuse of the child. It feels barbaric to actually interfere with a child’s genitals in that way.’"

• Causing a child to end up infertile (which would likely happen according to the article)
• Interfering with a child's genitals

Thank heavens for Baroness Nicolson