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Help needed in discussions with teen DS

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sydenhamhiller · 23/04/2022 13:28

Hi all, grateful for any help in constructing my argument in discussions with my DS (18).

I have just had big argument with DS who called me transphobic. I am so hurt: am just giving a little bit of back story - and let me know what you think?

I an white English, heterosexual.
I grew up in Asia and Europe, came to Uni in Scotland at 19. Lived abroad for another 2 years.

I have lived in London ever since, married with 3 kids. Have gay friends, bi sexual friends. It’s not really been anything we’ve even considered being an ‘issue’ of course.

A toddler group friend’s child, that I have known all my life, came out as transgendered 3 years ago at age 15. So happy they could live as their authentic self. I - of course- use their new names and pronouns, in birthday and Xmas cards for example, and when referring to them at home. As is only right - am not looking for ticker tape parade, just setting scene.

This young person has just posted on social media that they have got engaged. I am slightly taken aback - and was explaining to my daughter that it is because they are only just 18, in y13 - not because of gender/ sexuality, I would feel same way if DS got engaged to his girlfriend.

DS came down and said, well yeah but you are transphobic. I said no, don’t be offensive. I really think everyone should be allowed to live their best life as long as they are not hurting anyone, but I am concerned about self identifying, and encroaching on safe female only spaces.

DS scoffed and said, but yeah, how often does that happen? And how does it affect you? I mentioned the male prisoners identifying as women and then going on to commit sex crimes on female inmates. DS said ‘yeah, but that’s just a few cases’.

I am not armed to debate this with him, and feel so insulted that he would say this? He says I am like white people in the 1960s who didn’t really realise they were being racist, and I will look back in 20 years and see my bigotry for what it is.

I am ridiculously upset by this conversation.

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DysmalRadius · 23/04/2022 13:39

How would he respond if you said he was sexist? If you jighlighted that he is treating women as disposable to make a point? That his attitudes are similar to those that say women are asking to be attacked based on how they dress and you think he will look back and regret his willingness to throw away women's rights for the sake of men.

It sounds like he's regurgitating sound bites rather than really thinking about the issue logically, so maybe if you can draw some parallels for him, he will see it from a different angle.

Catnuzzle · 23/04/2022 13:32

So the women raped in prison, there's only a handful of them, so they're irrelevant? Men aren't raped as often as women. Let him know if he's raped it doesn't really count because it doesn't happen that often.