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Trans author has come under fire for 'killing off' JK Rowling in new horror novel

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Magicpaintbrush · 21/04/2022 18:20

https://uk.yahoo.com/style/trans-author-come-under-fire-140000697.html

This on Yahoo News - horrible. A sick, misogynistic fantasy that sounds like it comes from a very male place to me.

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IsItShining · 23/04/2022 20:06

Josephine Tey, PD James, Jane Austen, Dorothy Dunnett, Ellis Peters and Dorothy L Sayers, to name but a few, also all wrote books in which persons of one sex wore clothes of the other sex, often for more than two sentences. It’s rather frequently done as a plot device.

Mollyollydolly · 23/04/2022 19:54

I'm always reminded of her too, always makes me smile.

user47 · 23/04/2022 19:37

Every time I see @MargaritaPie 's name I am reminded of the glorious Margarita Pracatan (I'm dyslexic and this is just how my brain works). What an extraordinary woman she was. Anyway, despite our many differences in opinions @MargaritaPie , thanks for reminding me to introduce my DC to MP in all her fabulousness.

Datun · 23/04/2022 19:30

MrsTerryPratchett · 23/04/2022 16:15

Is reading a whole book a bit hard?

Evidently 🤣

MrsTerryPratchett · 23/04/2022 18:46

IsItShining · 23/04/2022 16:31

To be fair, the one with the not-trans-but-murderously-wearing-female-clothes character is quite a long book. And you have to be paying attention to pick out the ‘wearing female clothes’ bits from the [other more relevant plot spoiling devices] bits.

She does do illustrated books so maybe that's an option.

TheBiologyStupid · 23/04/2022 18:35

And the so-called Cambridge Rapist, Peter Samuel Cook was arrested escaping from the scene of the crime disguised with a long blonde wig. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Samuel_Cook

CrossPurposes · 23/04/2022 17:59

I won't name the book for spoiler reasons but Agatha Christie has a male villain escaping a crime scene wearing make up and a head scarf. I was shocked at this shocking plot point. When is Agatha going to be taken to task?

IsItShining · 23/04/2022 16:31

To be fair, the one with the not-trans-but-murderously-wearing-female-clothes character is quite a long book. And you have to be paying attention to pick out the ‘wearing female clothes’ bits from the [other more relevant plot spoiling devices] bits.

MrsTerryPratchett · 23/04/2022 16:15

MargaritaPie · 23/04/2022 02:02

Didn't JK Rowling write a book where the villain was a transwoman (or at least a transvestite)?

Is reading a whole book a bit hard?

OvaHere · 23/04/2022 15:01

IsItShining · 23/04/2022 05:23

You’d need to read her books and also define your terms, Margarita.

She wrote a book that has a transgender character. She wrote a different book involving a male murderer who bundles himself up in a woman’s coat as a plot point. There’s no hint that he considers himself a woman, no.

Do the many other detective novels featuring disguises also mean that the characters were trans, even if they didn’t know it? Or is that only true when applied to JK Rowling’s work?

Oh come now. We all know that a fictional character disguising themselves in a woman's coat is totally as bad as a fictional character who rapes, tortures and murders women as revenge for existing.

Don't you know that a lot of people in real life were totally harmed very badly by the existence of that fictional coat? 👀

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 23/04/2022 14:52

Imagine trotting that misrepresentation out again, even after it's been debunked dozens of times. Nobody who has actually read the book could have made that claim. The numpty who claimed in his pre-publication review that JKR had made her serial murderer a transwoman really showed himself up, as she had done nothing of the sort, but of course 'A lie is halfway round the world before the truth has got its boots on.'

Datun · 23/04/2022 14:47

MargaritaPie · 23/04/2022 02:02

Didn't JK Rowling write a book where the villain was a transwoman (or at least a transvestite)?

Only if your definition of a transwoman is a criminal who purposely dons female clothing in order to disguise his intentions. Because that's the character she wrote.

Fimofriend · 23/04/2022 14:05

I thought it was illegal to issue death threats? How can that book be considered anything but a threat?

AnybodyAnywhere · 23/04/2022 06:58

Well the Author, Gretchen, sounds like the type of gentle, caring girl that I’d be completely happy to share a space with…. Absolutely can’t see any problem or discomfort with that at all….

IsItShining · 23/04/2022 05:23

You’d need to read her books and also define your terms, Margarita.

She wrote a book that has a transgender character. She wrote a different book involving a male murderer who bundles himself up in a woman’s coat as a plot point. There’s no hint that he considers himself a woman, no.

Do the many other detective novels featuring disguises also mean that the characters were trans, even if they didn’t know it? Or is that only true when applied to JK Rowling’s work?

RogersOrganismicProcess · 23/04/2022 04:27

This just reinforces the message that men retain their aggressive nature even when they don a flowery dress! I feel genuinely sorry for those that don’t.

MargaritaPie · 23/04/2022 02:02

Didn't JK Rowling write a book where the villain was a transwoman (or at least a transvestite)?

TheBiologyStupid · 22/04/2022 20:49

@DomesticatedZombie "Sunlight, always" - absolutely! Seeing the pathetic attempt by TRAs to award one star reviews on Amazon to Helen Joyce's Trans, very few of which have the "Verified purchase" tag (unlike the vastly more numerous positive reviews, most of them five star) exposes the shallowness of playing stupid games. Truth will out.

Artichokeleaves · 22/04/2022 15:07

Datun · 22/04/2022 11:48

One reviewer, Damien D’Enfer, wrote: “Filled with rage and violence towards women, including torture, murder and rape, this hateful book should not be on Amazon. What used to be a movement built on love, the LGBT+ wunderkinds have demolished any goodwill towards our community with the most hateful behaviour imaginable.”

Yep.

That about nails it, yes.

I won't refer to myself as LGBT+ any more. It's not a 'community' I want any part of.

Datun · 22/04/2022 11:48

One reviewer, Damien D’Enfer, wrote: “Filled with rage and violence towards women, including torture, murder and rape, this hateful book should not be on Amazon. What used to be a movement built on love, the LGBT+ wunderkinds have demolished any goodwill towards our community with the most hateful behaviour imaginable.”

Yep.

DomesticatedZombie · 22/04/2022 10:52

My first response to hearing about this was that it shouldn't be given any publicity - it's violent hate and misogyny.

But actually I don't think it should be banned - let it get the publicity, let people see exactly what this author's fantasies involve.

Sunlight, always.

TheBiologyStupid · 22/04/2022 10:30

RoyalCorgi
"Apparently women politely saying they want to keep single-sex spaces creates a climate that increases violence against trans people. But writing an entire book about extreme violence towards women doesn't increase violence against women?"

Absolutely. I suppose I should be shocked by the hypocrisy, but for some reason...!

RoyalCorgi · 22/04/2022 08:47

Apparently women politely saying they want to keep single-sex spaces creates a climate that increases violence against trans people. But writing an entire book about extreme violence towards women doesn't increase violence against women?

EmeraldShamrock1 · 22/04/2022 08:30

The book should be banned.
Not surprising there is one rule for trans, another for the rest of the population.

Pluvia · 22/04/2022 08:28

Tor books (the publisher of this particularly sorry specimen) are distributed by Macmillan Publishers. Wouldn't it be great if some of Macmillan's authors decided to leave the imprint in protest and look for a new publisher?

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