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Are rats deserting the Stonewall ship?

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RoyalCorgi · 21/04/2022 08:49

Stonewall are currently recruiting to fill 14 vacancies, including head of press and PR, head of diversity champions and empowerment content manager:

stonewall.earcu.com/jobs/vacancy/find/results/

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rogdmum · 23/04/2022 07:40

Mermaids are looking for new staff as well- specifically a new Director of Legal and Policy…

mermaidsuk.org.uk/recruitment-growth/

RachelshouldvegonetoParis · 23/04/2022 07:26

Alison Perkins declined to play at the women’s despite being invited by them, saying it wouldn’t be fair. Respect for that.

I’d like to know who abused her. It wouldn’t be GC feminists if she’s playing in the men’s. The people who abused her are the problem.

SolasAnla · 23/04/2022 07:13

SolasAnla · 23/04/2022 07:11

The job in whales is that not below minimum wage or is it part time?
(I can't open the pdf)
Thats about £7 for a 7.5 hr day.
Senior Resources Officer, Cymru
Cymru, Cymru, £13,720, Stonewall Cymru.

The latest acrynon (LGBTQQA+)

lesbian, gay, bi, trans,
•queer,
•questioning and
•ace (LGBTQ+)
No "I" in the mix.
Queer 🙈🙉🙊
Questioning was bi back in the day.

They have added straight /heterosexuality chastity to homosexual chastity and bisexual chastity to the mix of who they represent. What a handy launch board position for rebranding into Faith Based schools be who you are just don't have sex. Are Stonewall receiving money from the Christian Far Right 🤔

  • Like why not, everybody else is🤷🏼‍♀️

(new layout resulted in premature posting)

SolasAnla · 23/04/2022 07:11

FemaleAndLearning · 21/04/2022 08:57

That would be a high turnover or is it doubling down? Some good salaries though the job descriptions only amount to a paragraph so not much detail at all.

The job in whales is that not below minimum wage or is it part time?
(I can't open the pdf)
Thats about £7 for a 7.5 hr day.
Senior Resources Officer, Cymru
Cymru, Cymru, £13,720, Stonewall Cymru.

The latest acrynon (LGBTQQA+)

lesbian, gay, bi, trans,
•queer,
•questioning and
•ace (LGBTQ+)
No "I" in the mix.
Queer 🙈🙉🙊
Questioning was bi back in the day.

They have added straight /heterosexuality chastity to homosexual chastity and bisexual chastity to the mix of who they represent. What a handy launch board position for rebranding into Faith Based schools be who you are just don't have sex. Are Stonewall receiving money from the Christian Far Right 🤔

PermanentTemporary · 23/04/2022 04:16

Alison Phillips transitioned ten years ago or so but still quite correctly plays in men's events, certainly as of last year. I'm perfectly prepared to believe that there was verbal abuse involved, it seems very plausible and the opposite of what should be happening.

DomesticatedZombie · 22/04/2022 20:13

Thanks. The story states 'alleged transphobic abuse' but gives absolutely no details at all, so it's hard to work out what actually happened.

PermanentTemporary · 22/04/2022 19:17

story here

DomesticatedZombie · 22/04/2022 18:33

PermanentTemporary · 22/04/2022 17:32

I'd love to see Stonewall get combative again tbh. Just recently there was a trans golf pro who did some demonstrations during a big golf tournament and got jeered at and shouted off. That kind of shit should cause massive protests at the golf club. Real inclusion, gender liberation, sex acceptance.

Why was the person protested at?

PermanentTemporary · 22/04/2022 17:32

I'd love to see Stonewall get combative again tbh. Just recently there was a trans golf pro who did some demonstrations during a big golf tournament and got jeered at and shouted off. That kind of shit should cause massive protests at the golf club. Real inclusion, gender liberation, sex acceptance.

PrelateChuckles · 22/04/2022 08:27

Oh, I've Googled it and it looks like they are missing a hyphen to make it a noun - "cut-through".

Accurate SPAG needed as well as clear, non-fuzzy, non-circular definitions - they can have that advice for free...

PrelateChuckles · 22/04/2022 08:23

How would you approach getting cut through on positive, proactive PR when many media outlets are focused on controversial narratives around LGBTQ+ communities?

What is getting "cut through"? Like getting your argument destroyed?!

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 21/04/2022 18:52

How would you engage with Stonewall's race equity and trans inclusion commitments?

Translation: how would you manage the press coverage if it becomes public knowledge that a black lesbian is taking us to court.

It would be funny if they got sufficient free advice here to handle the situation without employing any additional staff.

DomesticatedZombie · 21/04/2022 16:26

Yes, you're quite right. But I don't think they're going to be able to do that, unfortunately. They are incapable of seeing things from outwith their own narrow (and I would say extreme) position. Humility isn't part of their skillset. I recall someone saying that when they were set up it was all about riots and fighting - I guess they've contined with that combative approach, even after the battles are fought and their energies would be more usefully spent trying to build bridges and make something constructive.

SapphosRock · 21/04/2022 16:17

Amazing Star

I genuinely think the best tactic would be to show humility and admit where they have got it wrong.

Be absolutely clear that Stonewall support the Equality Act exemptions and isn't looking to overturn them.

Explicitly state that homosexuality needs to be visible, recognised and not challenged by gender ID.

Move the focus from lobbying for trans rights / removing women's rights to celebrating trans visibility and ensure trans people have equal opportunities.

DomesticatedZombie · 21/04/2022 16:01

Cheers.

Hm, the challenge is setting aside telling them the problems are of their own creating. But maybe that's what htey need to hear, ultimately.

I'll have a bash and send you something via pm, Sappho. I'm sure you're probably better placed to answer but in case it's of any use!

SapphosRock · 21/04/2022 15:44

Excellent thank you @DomesticatedZombie

Here are the questions:

How would you approach getting cut through on positive, proactive PR when many media outlets are focused on controversial narratives around LGBTQ+ communities?

How would you support your team to maintain resilience when dealing with a hostile and volatile media environment?

How do you apply an intersectional lens to your work both internally and externally?

How would you engage with Stonewall's race equity and trans inclusion commitments?

DomesticatedZombie · 21/04/2022 15:21

I'd be delighted to help if I can, Sapphos - I can't see the picture though, this 'update' seems to have buggered the ability to post pics.

SapphosRock · 21/04/2022 15:14

Right I'm applying. If anyone has any suggestions for these application questions let me know!

Are rats deserting the Stonewall ship?
BoreOfWhabylon · 21/04/2022 14:41

SapphosRock · 21/04/2022 10:04

Ooh I might apply for Head of Press and PR. I have all the experience. It would be interesting to see if they would outright reject a lesbian with all the necessary skills if her strategy was to focus on gay, lesbian and bisexual visibility and the right to be recognised as exclusively same sex attracted.

Ooh, go for it Sapphos!
(and report back Grin

SapphosRock · 21/04/2022 14:15

It would certainly be an interesting challenge and a good opportunity to salvage Stonewall's reputation.

Also an impossible task if Stonewall insists on wedding the LGB with the T.

DomesticatedZombie · 21/04/2022 11:32

Depends whether these are newly created roles or whether they're replacing existing ones, I suppose. I can imagine ahead of a certain court case various careerists are realising they want a shiny CV and Stonewall is looking ... well. A bit dubious.

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SapphosRock · 21/04/2022 10:04

Ooh I might apply for Head of Press and PR. I have all the experience. It would be interesting to see if they would outright reject a lesbian with all the necessary skills if her strategy was to focus on gay, lesbian and bisexual visibility and the right to be recognised as exclusively same sex attracted.

RoyalCorgi · 21/04/2022 09:54

Datun · 21/04/2022 09:36

Their head of Press and PR has fucked off right before the Allison Bailey case?

I suppose they just don't want that kind of debacle on their CV.

That would be my guess. Though it's possible that their head of PR is still in post and is working out their notice. Either way it's not going to be a job for the faint-hearted.

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Datun · 21/04/2022 09:36

Their head of Press and PR has fucked off right before the Allison Bailey case?

I suppose they just don't want that kind of debacle on their CV.

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