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MP for Caerphilly (Labour) - dreadful answer

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tabbycatstripy · 21/04/2022 08:17

When asked on Twitter, ‘What is a woman?’

“I’ve done casework for trans people who’ve faced incredible challenges in their lives. They deserve much better than trite questions like this. Life is complex. Deal with it.”

Do they really think condescending to women like this is going to work? “Trite”? “Life is complex”?

Detecting sex can be more complex than looking at the external body. We know people with DSDs exist. They are all male or female. There is no third or fourth sex.

But no, in this situation, life is not “complex”. Women exist, Hefin David. We are not males. Deal with it.

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IGoWalkingAfterMidnight · 21/04/2022 09:02

You have to remember that Philippa Marsden is the current leader of the Labour led council in Caerphilly and her trans woman son (Hero Marsden) is campaigning for a seat as a local councillor. Not all Labour candidates are towing the party line.

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tabbycatstripy · 21/04/2022 08:56

I’d ask him to explain. Where exactly is the complexity in this? What am I misunderstanding and can he help me? I’m just a poor woman and my lady brain struggles with all this complexity.

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Theunamedcat · 21/04/2022 08:47

Deal with it? What's is he on the set of eastenders?

I would have said yes yes very good now what is a woman?

Or pardon you I think you misunderstood the question I was asking about women

FemaleAndLearning · 21/04/2022 08:44

Appalling answer from your labour candidate. So you ask about women and they talk about trans! So ignorant, wouldn't trust them with safeguarding. I would ask back are they saying transgender people have DSD, because we know that is not true and that they are conflating two separate issues.

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tabbycatstripy · 21/04/2022 08:37

I know - why are people electing people who find these things so ‘complex’.

There should be classes for this sort of thing. They could begin with “rainy” and “sunny”.

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mudgetastic · 21/04/2022 08:33

TWAW == “ it’s so complex my brain fell out and I can’t deal with it so please go away”

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tabbycatstripy · 21/04/2022 08:31

‘Hear this a lot, then why isn't there appetite for a range of complex solutions? Because the current solution isn't very complex, is it?’

Well it’s not complex, that’s all. It’s just the interests of one small group being placed above the interests of a larger group.

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rabbitwoman · 21/04/2022 08:24

'life is complex' 'it is a complex problem'....

Etc....

Hear this a lot, then why isn't there appetite for a range of complex solutions? Because the current solution isn't very complex, is it?

Treating anyone who claims to be a woman as if they actually are exactly the same as a woman with no distinction, to the point where the word 'wonan' cannot even be defined any more is not helping anyone.