Active discussions

Please or to access all these features

Talk
Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Feminism: chat

Original poster

EHRC to appear before the House of Commons Women and Equalities Committee 20 April

89 replies

ResisterRex · 19/04/2022 14:58

20 April at 3pm

committees.parliament.uk/committee/328/women-and-equalities-committee/news/165945/ehrc-to-appear-before-women-and-equalities-committee/

"The Equalities and Human Rights Commission is to appear before the House of Commons Women and Equalities Committee to discuss the EHRC's response to the Committee's December 2021 Report Reform of the Gender Recognition Actt_. The Committee will consider the EHRC's stance regarding the Government's 2018 consultation, more recent reforms in Scotland, and its approach to LGBTQ+ issues more widely.
The session will also scrutinise the EHRC's new three-year plan and its work following the Government’s Inclusive Britain report.
Witnesses
Wednesday 20 April
At 3pm
• Baroness Kishwer Falkner, Chairwoman, Equality and Human Rights Commission,
• Marcial Boo, Chief Executive, Equality and Human Rights Commission,
• Melanie Field, Chief Strategy and Policy Officer, Equality and Human Rights Commission."

Here's the EHRC's Strategic Plan:

www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/publication-download/strategic-plan-2022-2025

And this should be the right link:

www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/f71c8699-64f0-4d59-ade4-f79572c550b6

OP posts:
tabbycatstripy · 20/04/2022 16:21

I had no idea what Bell Ribeiro-Addy was trying to say.

tabbycatstripy · 20/04/2022 16:19

What you do, if you’re Nokes, is assume the end point is ‘reform’, and hammer away with questions that assume the EHRC doesn’t have enough information yet. Ask them things like, ‘What evidence would you need, then?’ And ‘What work are you doing to collect that evidence?’

Original poster
ResisterRex · 20/04/2022 16:15

I thought all the EHRC people seemed well prepared and calm. I'm not sure how you argue successfully or well against what they stated in that meeting.

OP posts:
Cailleach1 · 20/04/2022 16:13

Has it just paused for voting?

tabbycatstripy · 20/04/2022 16:13

Falkner says the proposed reforms included ‘unknown social and practical consequences’... and outlines some of the potential effects very clearly.

Cailleach1 · 20/04/2022 16:11

Beefcurtains79 · 20/04/2022 16:05

What happened? Did the people behind them do something? They were distracting me by their excessive fidgeting.

Yes, thought this too. There was one who rather per formatively rolled their eyes. And, even though they only had a t-shirt on, then started shoving their hands back through the wrist part of the sleeve jacket; like having a 'blankie'.

tabbycatstripy · 20/04/2022 16:09

I’m watching from the beginning now. Interesting (and encouraging) that the EHRC board was unanimous about reversing their position on GRA reform.

GibbonsGoatsGibbons · 20/04/2022 16:08

DomesticatedZombie · 20/04/2022 16:04

IM SORRY YOU BASTARDS

Exactly 😂

Pluvia · 20/04/2022 16:08

Meeting ended 4.02pm I missed the first 35 minutes. Will have to watch it once it's archived.

Beefcurtains79 · 20/04/2022 16:05

What happened? Did the people behind them do something? They were distracting me by their excessive fidgeting.

DomesticatedZombie · 20/04/2022 16:04

IM SORRY YOU BASTARDS

GibbonsGoatsGibbons · 20/04/2022 16:03

That was hardly worth coming back for. CN "I'm sorry" was said like the first words of an argument 😂

DomesticatedZombie · 20/04/2022 16:02

WTF was that? Who were all those people and why did they vanish?

DomesticatedZombie · 20/04/2022 16:02

Oh, and off again. What is going on?

DomesticatedZombie · 20/04/2022 16:01

3,2,1 .. .and we're back in the room

DomesticatedZombie · 20/04/2022 16:00

I feel for the three EHRC reps there, it feels like they've been thrown into the lion's den. And they're trying to act like normally reasonable adults and have a conversation but they've got Caroline Nokes shouting at them and interrupting and accusing them every ten seconds.

Cailleach1 · 20/04/2022 15:58

I'm laughing at the thought of the person who stated at the Northern Ireland Select Affairs Committee that she was probably giving birth at the time as an excuse for not (ever!) having read the Good Friday Agreement. Nigh on 20 years before she was asked this question. This is the person who is getting out the magnifying glass for one or two incorrect terms words being used by mistake by the main speaker at today's event.

CN very hostile today. Looks more petulant though as she is such a lightweight.

Pluvia · 20/04/2022 15:58

EHRC has not been given a budget for the current year — two weeks into the financial year. Baroness Falkner saying this is an existential issue. Last year didn't even have the baseline that has been agreed is necessary to do the work required by statute. Even Nokes seem to be astonished by this.

GibbonsGoatsGibbons · 20/04/2022 15:53

What was the nit picking about whether ScotGov had decided on 16 or 18 (16 because they're fucking idiots) - it's hardly the EHRC's fault.

GibbonsGoatsGibbons · 20/04/2022 15:51

Ooh I liked the incredibly polite way the Baroness said that Stonewall needed to stop throwing their toys out of the pram Grin

Marcial Boo was good at pointing them back to 9 PCs when they just want to fight about the usual one.

CN is extraordinarily combative "shall we wait for the transcript" 🤬

Cailleach1 · 20/04/2022 15:50

Good for JDP to point out that LG is not the same as T. They are two different protected characteristics in the Equality Act, aren't they? You have to address them differently as sexual orientation and as gender reassignment.

Lovelyricepudding · 20/04/2022 15:49

tabbycatstripy · 20/04/2022 15:46

JDP takes no shit whatsoever.

Nokes is just RUDE. Like, needs reprimanding rude.

Not able to watch but could she be reported for breach of standards?

DomesticatedZombie · 20/04/2022 15:47

tabbycatstripy · 20/04/2022 15:46

JDP takes no shit whatsoever.

Nokes is just RUDE. Like, needs reprimanding rude.

100%. I think it's appalling and I don't know how she gets away with it. It's verging on bullying.

Original poster
ResisterRex · 20/04/2022 15:46

I had to rewind. I could not understand Bell Ribeiro-Addy's questions. Something about what if the law doesn't comply with the law? Falkner said she couldn't answer about law in the abstract but only about the equality act. Very confusing.

OP posts:
tabbycatstripy · 20/04/2022 15:46

JDP takes no shit whatsoever.

Nokes is just RUDE. Like, needs reprimanding rude.