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The Family Sex Show to continue, despite widespread outrage

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MatthewJTaylor · 19/04/2022 10:34

The twitter account for the theatre group behind the Family Sex Show (@ThisEgg_) has revealed that there are performances planned of the Family Sex Show despite the cancellation of the national tour and they are looking for more venues to take them on.
It seems that the Bath performance(s) is/are running.

The Family Sex Show to continue, despite widespread outrage
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theDudesmummy · 19/04/2022 15:54

Can someone point me to where the masturbating animals bit is, I cannot see it. I plan to make a report to CEOP.

Organictangerine · 19/04/2022 15:54

I’ve emailed Nadine Dorries in her position of SOS of culture media and sport. If anyone else wants to do the same her email address is:
[email protected]

DomesticatedZombie · 19/04/2022 15:54

@BraveBananaBadge

Interesting isn't it, how the Arts Council bowed to pressure to withdraw funding from an LGB Alliance project about gay history in the UK, while this company are dismissing tens of thousands of complaints (and if anything, making their content even more extreme in the process).
That was an arts organisation distributing funds, not the Arts Council themselves. But yes.
MrsOvertonsWindow · 19/04/2022 15:53

IANAL but In relation to children, some of the specific crimes under the Sexual Offences Act 2003 could apply to some of the online suggestions (eg, google masturbating animals) which the company are clear are aimed at 5 year old children upwards? (Section 10: Causing or inciting a child to engage in sexual activity?). As might the proposal for adults to deliberately display their naked bodies to unknown very young children?

Trouble is that most sexual offences are centred around the targeting of individual children. A teacher, police officer, doctor, nurse stripping naked in front of unrelated primary aged children would be subject to immediate disciplinary action by their employers and regulatory body. But a group of "actors" seems to have a get out clause with no responsible adults interested in safeguarding children in the Arts / theatre world and the specific criminal offences may not apply to children in an audience.

It would be great if one of our knowledgable police people / lawyers could give an insight into this aspect of the law (obviously not those in thrall to the Stonewall fantasy versions of our laws) Wink

OatSprout · 19/04/2022 15:52

@UsernameNotAvailableHmm

I can only add my name to the others here who are disgusted at the content and intention of 'The Family Sex Show'
Same. Appalled. It is nothing but sinister.
BraveBananaBadge · 19/04/2022 15:45

Interesting isn't it, how the Arts Council bowed to pressure to withdraw funding from an LGB Alliance project about gay history in the UK, while this company are dismissing tens of thousands of complaints (and if anything, making their content even more extreme in the process).

theDudesmummy · 19/04/2022 15:21

@UsernameNotAvailableHmm

Content AND intention

That is exactly right, and important to say.

UsernameNotAvailableHmm · 19/04/2022 15:14

I can only add my name to the others here who are disgusted at the content and intention of 'The Family Sex Show'

KnightsofNi · 19/04/2022 15:09

Getting children to look up images of masturbating animals is so ludicrous as to almost be hilarious. I'd love to see the teacher's face if little Billy brought in a drawing of Simba or Shere Khan knocking out a crafty one! Red flags aplenty and rightly so.

Goodness only knows what the children would find in the process of looking up such images. An image search of 'The Family Sex Show' is already bad enough.

People are far too sensitive to the idea of an influential evangelical right-wing pulling the strings behind the scenes here. As someone who moves very much in that kind of world, I don't know a single Christian family or mainstream faith school that thinks that an abstinence approach is a good idea.

In fact the idea of a suppressive religious right is exactly what the sex positive people need in order to sell their ideology. There are thankfully very few children who grow up these days without an understanding of sex and sexuality or who are genuinely intolerant.

It's perfectly possible to teach children important things about how to keep themselves safe within the context of sex and relationships without exposing primary school kids to concepts of pegging, squirting, anal sex and play parties.

What the people behind this show have done is to take a kernel of truth - it's good for families to be open about sex, it's good for children to be given the information that they need to make good choices, it's good for children to learn that bodies aren't dirty etc and produce a totally distorted narrative.

People have been working out how to have fun in bed for millennia without the need to encourage children to get involved.

theDudesmummy · 19/04/2022 15:08

I thought I read on another thread that they had taken the "glossary" down. They haven't! It is still there.

theDudesmummy · 19/04/2022 15:01

Esecially if the masturbating animals thing is new, it really needs to be reported to the police, right now.

theDudesmummy · 19/04/2022 14:59

@FannyCann

Stephen Gough didn't just do it because he liked roaming naked. He had a strong point he was making about individual freedom and was prepared to spend years in jail to make it. He was certainly however harmless (and he was and is perhaps eccentric, but not mentally ill, he eventually stopped his naked rambling when his mum became ill and he had to care for her, so could not spend all his time in jail). The way he was persecuted was also a disgrace as far as I am concerned.

Gough's nakedness (and my own and my family's, incidentally, every summer on a designated naturist beach) is about as far from this disgusting paedophilic grooming as you can get!

Shortpoet · 19/04/2022 14:59

Weirdly when you Google either “The family sex show”, or “thefamilysexshow “ the site doesn’t appear in the first 3 pages of Google results. You have to put in the full url to get to the page thefamilysexshow.com

theemperorhasnoclothes · 19/04/2022 14:58

@SmallSoupcon

In plain sight. And people ask how the Jimmy Savile thing happened. Like this. It happened like this. They are telling us exactly who they are, just like he did.
Yes, this.

Interesting how these plain sight groomers are also so keen to claim that 'woman' is an offensive term. Almost as if they know who will provide the most push back to their creepy attempts to sexualise children.

Talk about DARVO, it's unbelievable.

DomesticatedZombie · 19/04/2022 14:56

Masturbating animals was only posted today, I believe. I response to the uproar about safeguarding. Doubling down on the dodginess I suppose. I have archived but always good to have a few done.

Terfydactyl · 19/04/2022 14:53

@Absurdle

Are all those pages archived? Just in case someone thinks to hide the evidence. I archived one but my access to the archive sites seems patchy.
Bumping because this is important to do and I would but do I hell know how to and I'm off to work soon.
theDudesmummy · 19/04/2022 14:52

I am no fan of the DM but I do hope they do pick this up again, with the latest kinks included. I have never been so disappointed in the Guardian in my life as I have been for their attitude on this issue.

FannyCann · 19/04/2022 14:45

More about the Naked Rambler.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Gough

FannyCann · 19/04/2022 14:44

Nudity in public alone with no aggravating features is very unlikely to amount to this (or any other) offence.

Slight derail but in that case why was "The Naked Rambler" pursued so relentlessly?

As far as I recall he was a harmless if eccentric chap who just liked roaming the moors naked.

Whilst in general I think nudists should reserve their nudity for designated areas - as someone who regularly dog walks in lonely areas I'm not keen on rounding a corner to find myself face to face with a naked man - nonetheless there seemed to be an authoritarian obsession with curtailing his activities at the time.

theDudesmummy · 19/04/2022 14:42

We know exactly who it is sitting on their computers enjoying dreaming up an activity of getting tiny children to think about masturbation, Google it and DRAW PICTURES OF IT. Of course those people are always going to exist. We can't stop that. They are part of the wide spectrum of people that consitute humanity. We don't however have to openly sanction and encourage their activities and throw public funding at it.

Absurdle · 19/04/2022 14:42

Are all those pages archived? Just in case someone thinks to hide the evidence. I archived one but my access to the archive sites seems patchy.

beastlyslumber · 19/04/2022 14:39

I suspect one reason why this isn't getting as much coverage as it should is that it's so fucking unbelievable. People will think, no they can't possibly be doing that, must be middle aged ladies getting hysterical.

That, and the confusion of the woke.

I think the Mail did an article on this before, hopefully they'll pick it up again.

theDudesmummy · 19/04/2022 14:37

And actually can't believe the group calling those of us who objected a "small group of people with extremist views". Asking about child safeguarding procedures is "extremist views"...right...

theDudesmummy · 19/04/2022 14:33

I don't have my main residential address in the UK, so it would be better if it was not me, but please could someone contact the police? I am a mental health professional and an expert on adult survivors of child sexual abuse. I commented quite extensively on previous threads. I was already incredibly outraged and enraged on behalf of past and future survivors, and contacted the NSPCC several d ago. I was not aware until this thread today of this animal masturbation aspact and the actual, in plain sight, internet grooming, that was attached to this whole show. This is even worse than we thought. Jesus H Christ, WTF was the Arts Council and other organisations that have put their name and logo to this actual sex offending thinking?

I got

BernsBellRowling · 19/04/2022 14:29

My MP is Nadine Dorries (unfortunately). I think I will be emailing her about this in her capacity as SoS for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport. The fact that Arts Council England has money anywhere near this kind of grooming toolkit is outrageous. I thought it was horrifying before I saw the Zine content on their website. Now I’m just feeling white hot anger. I have infant school aged children this shit is peddled at and I can’t get my head around how anyone can’t see how dangerous and utterly inappropriate it is.