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"Inclusive language" for the Lords

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ResisterRex · 18/04/2022 09:57

It just never ends. You'd think Parliament would be the one place where no one gets to police others. But no:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10724953/Staff-told-say-folks-colleagues-inclusive-Lords-language-guide.html

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springtimeintheair · 18/04/2022 10:27

Surely the opposite is true. Using and understanding the real language of everyday is crucial to taking correct action.

Artichokeleaves · 18/04/2022 10:10

I'd rather they stopped wasting time worrying about whether their language would fit through some purity spiral of a social justice warrior and just kept their mind and focus on doing their bloody jobs.

ResisterRex · 18/04/2022 10:07

One thing I found in the Telegraph version was this:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/04/17/house-lords-staff-told-avoid-offensive-terms-manpower/

"Chiefs of MI5, MI6 and GCHQ have also told staff to avoid using words such as “manpower” because these can “reinforce dominant cultural patterns”.
The document’s author, Sir Stephen Lovegrove, the national security adviser, writes: “This toolkit is called Mission Critical because a diverse and inclusive culture is critical to succeeding in our national security missions.”
In a section on inclusive language, it says: “In national security, look out for words and phrases, such as ‘strong’ or ‘grip’, that reinforce the dominant cultural patterns. Avoid jargon, hierarchy or gender biases.”
Another says: “Use gender-neutral language to reflect people’s diversity and reduce stereotypes and assumptions, for example about job roles and functions which need not be gender-defined.”
A Whitehall spokesman said the guidance would be included in core training. “They are fundamental to the national security of the UK,” they added."

I have never heard of "grip" or "strong" being offensive or to be avoided. I'd be interested to know where that's from.

The rest is the same old garbage. I somehow doubt using "gender-neutral" terms will be the big thing that helps us in Ukraine for example.

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Artichokeleaves · 18/04/2022 10:00

They're welcome to bend their language through all the hoops they like so long as it's not that inclusionary exclusion used to vanish female humans behind the more important kind.

I do think those pushing it need to be aware that they are building up an increasing likelihood of those being lectured and directed coming to associate them with being tediously hard work.