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Women don’t know they’re women unless they test their chromosomes, says Stonewall

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ResisterRex · 17/04/2022 13:13

Telegraph article freely accessible at the link. It looks like more co-opting of intersex to forge ahead with getting to the point where gender identity trumps sex.

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From the article:

"The session began by setting out the definition for intersex people, who fall outside societal expectations of the male-female binary. Staff were told: “Most people do not have their chromosomes tested, so many of us don’t actually know what they are.”
It is widely understood that for the vast majority, males have XY chromosomes and females XX, a biological process of DNA in egg cells when fertilisation occurs, however, some intersex people can rarely have a mixture.
A source who attended the session, titled “First steps to LGBTQ+ inclusion”, said it was also discussed how intersex people, who form less than two per cent of the population, may have both sets of genitals. The session materials referred to “sex assigned at birth”, rather than birth sex."

And more on the silencing of those who understand and apply the real law:

"an HR worker at Bristol, told The Telegraph she had to write a letter of apology after trans activists on a staff equality committee walked out last year over her defence of the word “maternity” in university policies.
While the word ultimately stayed, she said she was subject to a three-month informal probe when staff complained about the “problematic” and “exclusionary” term and said she had been offensive by stating only biological women can give birth.
“There is a culture of fear on campus. Female professor friends and I are scared to even talk about women’s rights in public spaces near the university,” she said. “We speak in hushed tones looking over our shoulders.”"

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GingerPCatt · 17/04/2022 13:25

(side eyes DS sitting next to me...that I grew in my uterus, gave birth to vaganially*, and fed with milk from my breasts) Nope, no idea if I'm a woman. Better check my chromosomes. And DH's. Maybe he can carry and birth the next kid.
*cesarean is just as womanly. Absolutely no shade as to how you bring your children into the world.

BridgeofStock · 17/04/2022 13:24

What have people with disorders of sexual development got to do with Stonewall anyway? At ether branching out into complex medical areas now? Might they find a cure for cancer?

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 17/04/2022 13:22

FFS!

When I bought Ddog I had his chromosomes tested to be sure he wasn't a cat.

DSDs aren't so common as to rewrite humanity. They may think that sounds all growed up and scientific, bit it makes them sound like total fuckwits.

For thousands of years humanity has managed with a quick check if the genitals at birth, latterly by a whiz bang magic machine prior to birth. But hey! When science is reduced to feelings, this is the shite you end up with.

MrsWooster · 17/04/2022 13:19

I decided to take the easy route of birthing two children then getting diagnosed with a life-limiting female cancer.
So much more straightforward.

dropthevipers · 17/04/2022 13:17

I thought that according to Stonewall, a women was anyone who felt like it, so what's all this rubbish about chromosome tests?

Theunamedcat · 17/04/2022 13:16

I'm surprised they haven't come out with we all start as female therfore we are all female

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