Apparently female rape survivors 'need' mixed sex groups

What provision is there for female transitioners? Female transitioners are targeted for corrective rape, as are other female humans who don't conform enough.

If these services are mixed-sex but single-gender, where do they go?

They would then however have to own that they believe that only female people should not be entitled to any alternative to mixed sex provision.

Their male born clients can choose from a variety of options for their best comfort and I am downright positive that none of these idiots would hesitate to pontificate about how TQ+ people requiring TQ+ only spaces must be supported and catered to, and male people requiring male only spaces.

It is only females who must have mixed sex.

Because male people wish to be with them, and it is unacceptable to say no to a male. Even for a female to be able to be helped with her rape. If she is not able to understand that the most important thing about her trauma is how it can be used for the benefit of male people then she can go without services.

Stop the fucking planet and let me off.

They wish to provide mixed-sex services and they want to be able to say "but the law makes us" when women object.

Cowards. If they think they're doing the right thing, they should willing to stand up and say that they only provide mixed-sex services because they think it's right. And also willing to seek funding from the general public on that platform.

This is appalling.

To be fair to the centre, it's only a small proportion of their volunteers/staff who've signed the letter.

True. However, unless they have compassionate staff left who are dedicated to making sure these women never come face-to-face with a client, some clients are going to get the signatories' lecturing that identifies as support .

There is nothing in the EHRC guidelines to say these orgs cannot offer mixed sex services if that is what they want to do. So what they are demanding is that no one else should be able to offer single sex services.

I've gone away and come back to this thread three times now because as soon as I begin to comment I realise i can't say what I want to without getting deleted.

Any woman signing this piece of excrement should be sacked.

Is no place safe now for women this is utterly shocking.

[quote PurgatoryOfPotholes]I think this sums it all up

Saying that trans-identified males 'add amazing value' and are 'needed' in women's rape crisis services is like a paramedic hoping for a diverse range of victims in a road accident in order to make her job more intersectional. It's ghoulish.

twitter.com/helensaxby11/status/1515227088441257990?s=20&t=GE8oRHIQZJIhMFCu1qftBQ[/quote]
Absolutely. This stuff is such utter bullshit and I’m sick ofit.

I had a very quick look at one of the organisations that had only one signature. They welcome tw but exclude tm? As I wrote upthread I'm very disturbed by the possible motives that some tw might have for wanting to be with female survivors of rape and sexual assault. Some fetishise it and their reasons for joining would, frankly, be abhorrent to most people. I think it's important for tw to have their own groups and resources, or for there to be mixed sex in addition to single sex. Perhaps Stonewall or that cycling bloke could help with the finance?

Survivors Network also called for "an end to the persistent and widespread violence perpetrated against Black bodies" in light of the Child Q case. They can't even bring themselves to say "girls" in this instance, instead opting for total commitment to the ever-pervasive style of a post-grad first happening on Foucault and Butler, and deciding "bodies" is appropriate. How appalling.

survivorsnetwork.org.uk/end-all-forms-of-violence-against-black-bodies/

Presumably the signatories from the Tyneside/Northumberland centres are the same centres that participated in Rachel Pain's research (which from memory was a very small scale study) - so a circular economy so to speak

And they successfully stop that service doing its job because the job in their minds is entirely secondary to the politics. They are not there to help raped women, they are not passionate about helping raped women, they are passionate about ending female only provision for females and focusing everything on their personal political agenda around male people with a range of gender identities.

Stepping over the shards of women's lives that they have helped to fracture as part of their political CVs and personal advancement plans.

A group of political extremists set out to capture a service to run it the way they would like (and to end it serving female only people or existing in a female only annoying way).

And they successfully stop that service doing its job because the job in their minds is entirely secondary to the politics. They are not there to help raped women, they are not passionate about helping raped women, they are passionate about ending female only provision for females and focusing everything on their personal political agenda around male people with a range of gender identities.

This is why capture is such a significant issue, and why it is now the case that many captured services are going to have to be closed, everyone sacked, and the service begun again from the ground up free of this piracy. Because the bloody service is to help women with a specific need, not to act as a personal vanity vehicle and feelz for political activists. This letter is largely about the annoyance of raped women wanting actual service instead of behaving as useful props to the staff.

Here's an article on Jay Breslaw:

www.womenarehuman.com/rape-survivors-network-backs-male-who-joined-female-sessions-driving-woman-out/

[quote LK1972]Jay Breslaw, the first signatory:
'We are deeply concerned about the possibility of tightening of access to single-sex spaces and we strongly feel that the use of women only spaces by trans women should be actively encouraged and we would urge reviewing the law around single-sex space
exemptions.', in the letter to the Parliamentary Committee last year, committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/17524/pdf/[/quote]
I can't fucking believe that a CEO of a rape crisis centre is trying to remove the exemptions in the 2010 Equality Act, publicly, wtf is wrong with these people?

Jay Breslaw, the first signatory:
'We are deeply concerned about the possibility of tightening of access to single-sex spaces and we strongly feel that the use of women only spaces by trans women should be actively encouraged and we would urge reviewing the law around single-sex space
exemptions.', in the letter to the Parliamentary Committee last year, committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/17524/pdf/

Just when you think you can't get more angry about all this utter bollocks…

I'm utterly shocked that a centre staffed by signatories to that ridiculous letter could have provided poor support to anyone.

Oh wait, no I'm not.

I feel for the woman who was let down at one of the worst times of her life by a group that should have been there to support her every step of the way.

That letter is beyond vile to women like Sarah who need single sex spaces. Gaslighting in the extreme. Let us know when we can help please, Sarah.

Oh - I starred out the name of the service, and it seems that has deleted it altogether. Should be 'Dealing with xxxx has been'.