Article on AGP by Lorelei

I will ask in front of a bunch of ladies if I can shop dressed as a lady or if transvestites are welcome to shop here.

A lot of these patterns of behaviour are of course familiar. But this one really stood out. Because the behaviour is the same, but the currently acceptable societal response is completely different.

Take the Monsoon incident yesterday for example, where the instigator got a free dress as compensation for being asked to wait until the women in the changing rooms had finished.

Or the ironically named actuallesbians subreddit, which is dominated by lesbians of the penis persuasion, but still gets regular "I'm trans am I welcome to post here?" posts. And of course they are told they are welcome - anyone who didn't say that would get deleted and banned. All of the subreddits that are nominally supposed to be for women are the same way.

The interesting thing here is that the person doing it isn't necessarily seeking the reward of being "validated." He seems to want the opposite, in fact. How does this kind of behaviour escalate when they don't get the pushback that they're seeking out?

Well that was... insightful
Menstruation and sexism as a turn on, it's just so odd, and now I wonder if a lot of men think women are turned on by these things too? Maybe the gender pay gap is an attempt to woo the female sex

I have this book but the article is great as the book - being in-depth and an academic tome - is quite heavy-going.

I like how the article ends:

"Men’s sexual desires are rewriting women,
Men’s sexual desires are rewriting women’s rights,
Men’s sexual desires are dominating the conversation."

Good to remember when threads get noticed and derailed.

Thank you for sharing this more widely Tinsel it's an important one that as many people as possible should read. Well written, well explained, uncritical and true.

Women as a sex class should not be redefined into a male fantasy that benefits males only. It's misogyny on an unbelievable scale. The really scary thing is that we live in a country and in a time where the establishment doesn't really see much of a problem with this.

obligatory i am not generalising, not all men, not all transwomen, not all AGPs, footnote.

I don't know what you can say without getting deleted, but ye gods, that is absolutely revolting to read. It's so insulting to women to pretend that we have something in common with men like this.

This needs to be read by MPs, the entire NHS staff and everyone in Education!