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Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing

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ickky · 14/04/2022 16:22

The Tribunal will start on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

I have sent a request but haven't had anything back yet. Hopefully nearer the time.

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nauticant · 03/05/2022 10:43

Argument for SW/GCC for maintaining constraints on public accessibility to the bundle are:
that the public can understand what the issues are and what the evidence is from the core bundle; and
this would mean free availability of witness statements and witness evidence only needs to be made availalble for the duration of the case and no longer than that.

DomesticatedZombie · 03/05/2022 10:43

I hope all costs are ultimately payable by Stonewall.

SpindleInTheWind · 03/05/2022 10:41

If this is Stonewall's tactic then I'm happy to keep supporting Allison in any way necessary, including her fees.

Why the fuck the judge doesn't sanction this multi-million pound organisation for behaving so contemptuously I really don't know. Or will it affect costs awards at the end?

Ameanstreakamilewide · 03/05/2022 10:39

I was thinking the same, Jules.

I used to be a legal clerk and can't get my head around how that bundle would leave the office in that state.
The senior partner simply wouldn't have accepted that standard.

AlisonDonut · 03/05/2022 10:37

It isn't incompetence, they are trying to bankrupt her by overloading with unnecessary evidence that she then has to pay lawyers to sort out. Someone did that to me once when i was investigating fraud and inadvertently sent me documents which showed the people they were claiming they had trained were in a completely different place at the same time. My Head of Legal was thrilled at informing them of this.

DomesticatedZombie · 03/05/2022 10:36

Tribunal tweets doing a sterling job:

nitter.net/tribunaltweets

JulesRimetStillGleaming · 03/05/2022 10:34

Having previously been involved in putting together bundles for planning inquiries, this might not be sleight of hand and just a frazzled junior staff member messing up the admin.

Ameanstreakamilewide · 03/05/2022 10:34

Colour me shocked, ickky! 🤨

DomesticatedZombie · 03/05/2022 10:33

So Ben is arguing for public access in downloadable form.

DomesticatedZombie · 03/05/2022 10:32

Sounds like a total mess. Pagination all over the place. Badly put together. Illegible, and unusable, by the sound of it. BC asking how the public can follow along.

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ickky · 03/05/2022 10:32

So incompetence or strategic incompetence by Stonewall.

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DomesticatedZombie · 03/05/2022 10:30

Over 6,000 pages and it needn't be as some docs appear 7 or 8 times.

DomesticatedZombie · 03/05/2022 10:29

Not linked, not indexed, not in chronological order.

DomesticatedZombie · 03/05/2022 10:29

BC: Your bundle is shit.

DomesticatedZombie · 03/05/2022 10:28
Shock
nauticant · 03/05/2022 10:27

Phwoar! www.claas.co.uk/products/combines/dominator130-2015

SpindleInTheWind · 03/05/2022 10:25

Stonewall law aka bollocks

Very good Grin

Ah yes, Stonewall's reliance on the legal tenets of 'we don't want to' and 'because we say so' is in for a rocky ride with Ben Cooper QC.

DomesticatedZombie · 03/05/2022 10:25

For anyone concerned about your camera/mic settings: Just don't google tractors.

nauticant · 03/05/2022 10:24

That would make sense DomesticatedZombie since the core bundle doesn't contain witness statements and as we've seen before, those can be fascinating.

Zeugma · 03/05/2022 10:22

I know it’s tricky. I’m super-paranoid. Keep checking and double-checking that my icons are crossed out. Luckily my webcam is the sort that clicks down and stores into the top of the monitor so I definitely won’t be seen, anyway…

DomesticatedZombie · 03/05/2022 10:22

I think there are two bundles? The one shared already, 300 pp. And what Ben Cooper is discussing now, which is apparently 6,000 pp.

nauticant · 03/05/2022 10:21

I wonder whether BC is talking about the complete bundle of this case (is it 6500 pages or 6500 documents?) rather than the just the core documents that have been made available today for downloading and saving?

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ickky · 03/05/2022 10:20

I think the respondents don't want the bundle publicly available. So BC is quoting previous cases to demonstrate that they once again are probably using stonewall law aka bollocks.

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DomesticatedZombie · 03/05/2022 10:20

Ben Cooper has mentioned 6,000 pages, so it's not the 300 pp pdf

JulesRimetStillGleaming · 03/05/2022 10:18

Zeugma · 03/05/2022 10:13

Someone eating cornflakes with their mic unmuted……😡

It's so hard to mute mics and know whether or not you've done it once you're in. Last week I had a handy video icon with a cross through it but not this week.

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