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12yr old non-binary girl wants to stop periods, group admin suggests a hystorectomy

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Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 14/04/2022 15:00

From Colin Wright@swipe wright on twitter

From the Facebook group "Parents of Trans/Non-Binary Kids" with over 9K members.

Parent posts that her "nonbinary" or "gender fluid" 12yo female child wants to stop her period (you don't say!).

Group Admin replies and suggests, among other things, a HYSTERECTOMY.

The other pathways of blockers and testosterone also seem very extreme for a 12 year old girl who is 'non-binary'.

twitter.com/SwipeWright/status/1514001891851710465/photo/1

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Baruchd · 14/04/2022 18:10

@Lacedwithgrace

It's impossible to be a non-binary girl
'Non-binary' seems to mean 'neither male nor female'. If we take 'non-binary' in this sense, it is impossible to be a non-binary human.

Every human child is either a boy or a girl; every human adult is either a man or a woman. This is not at all in question. To think you can make sense of denying it is to play the fool. (A fashionable game in some quarters, it seems.)

Whatwouldscullydo · 14/04/2022 18:10

c4 Flowers

Yes this blaze way of talking like it's all just optional when in fact all.of it is am indicator of a child's health and not something that should so casually be.mucked about with unless medically indicated . So sorry about your dd. BrewCake

C4tintherug · 14/04/2022 18:05

My daughter is 16 and has anorexia and has not had a period for a long time. Her team are all working towards the holy grail of her restarting her periods as that is a huge indicator of health.
I wonder if their response would be different if she identified as NB or a boy?

Whatwouldscullydo · 14/04/2022 17:55

Why would stopping menstruation in a healthy child at an average age for onset of menstruation without complications such as endo etc be a desirable approach?

What would stopping periods now achieve that presumably 12 years if growing up in a household where hopefully they were explained to/ told periods were normal etc didn't ?

How about seeking psychological.help as opposed to medical ?

Mummyoflittledragon · 14/04/2022 17:50

Why are we no longer talking about FGM?

ExMachinaDeus · 14/04/2022 17:48

Just a suggestion about the "usual" way of suppressing or stopping menstruation. But clearly a hysterectomy is a better answer >/sarcasm font off

Whatwouldscullydo · 14/04/2022 17:32

Why would a 12 yr old go on the pill. Why would a distressed 12 year old be given medication where weight gain ( so bigger breasts potentially) amd low mood/depression and breakthrough bleeding are side effects?

How would that help?

ExMachinaDeus · 14/04/2022 17:28

So women can have penises but NB females or trans boys can't have periods ?

This is the thing - it's being female which is so, so appalling to these people.

Why doesn't the mother just put her daughter on the contraceptive pill?

Mumoftwoinprimary · 14/04/2022 17:23

When I was 34 my situation was as follows:-

  1. Two healthy children (one of each sex)
  2. Married to same man for over 10 years
  3. Both births had involved haemorrhages - at least one of which had risked my life
  4. Unwilling to terminate any accidental pregnancy due to long term beliefs
  5. Both myself and Dh clear that we did not want more children

When discussing contraception with the nurse I vaguely asked about sterilisation as a possible option. She was very clear that it would be totally inappropriate as I was still very young / I might change my mind about a third child (my youngest was still pretty young) / me and Dh might split up and I meet someone else.

With hindsight (and despite the fact that I haven’t ever wanted more kids) she was absolutely right! I wasn’t at a point when I could make a decision about sterilisation and I could easily have regretted it,

But - I was still far more equipped to make the decision than a twelve year old is!

Justkeeppedaling · 14/04/2022 17:21

@MattDamon

If someone had told me at 13 that I could have a surgery to get rid of periods forever, I would done it in an instant. I would have lied and said I understood the long term consequences even though I wouldn't have.

Same.

Qwill · 14/04/2022 17:20

Nobody is going to do this to a child. They wouldn’t be able to get the insurance. It’s hard enough to do as an adult woman.

Viviennemary · 14/04/2022 17:18

Insanity.

ThisIsJeopardy · 14/04/2022 17:17

The admin helpfully notes that birth control pills are 'easier to access for AFAB people' Hmm... Tough luck for all those 'AMABs' trying to stop their periods then. Confused

Whatwouldscullydo · 14/04/2022 17:16

I wouldn't even say the pill is particularly desirable in a child so young. It has side effects to consider.

It has its purpose yes. I.sure many teens take it without issue because the benefits of taking it outweigh the risk.factors.

But presumably the risk.factors in those women and girls do not include denying the reality of their sex which is not something resolved by a pill or implant of any kind its reality and needs to be faced. Not avoided.

Lacedwithgrace · 14/04/2022 17:10

@jay55

It plays in to the shopping list for treatment that we've seen in the Webberley tribunal.

Why is it always surgery and blockers rather than the pill without a break week?

Why is most harm the first option with these people?

Did you click the link? Hmm
Staffy1 · 14/04/2022 17:03

Whoever decided it was a good idea to teach children about all these strange gender types has a lot to answer for.

Lacedwithgrace · 14/04/2022 16:43

It's impossible to be a non-binary girl

whynotwhatknot · 14/04/2022 16:28

Ffs i probably would have done anything not to have periods at that age

its bloody dangerous talk

overitall1 · 14/04/2022 16:24

@MattDamon

If someone had told me at 13 that I could have a surgery to get rid of periods forever, I would done it in an instant. I would have lied and said I understood the long term consequences even though I wouldn't have.
This!
FrancescaContini · 14/04/2022 16:18

When I was 12 and had period pains, advice was: hot water bottle/bath/walk. And my grandma gave me a tot of brandy Grin

jay55 · 14/04/2022 16:15

It plays in to the shopping list for treatment that we've seen in the Webberley tribunal.

Why is it always surgery and blockers rather than the pill without a break week?

Why is most harm the first option with these people?

Whatwouldscullydo · 14/04/2022 16:14

Not to mention what this will do to the child and their relationship with the adults around them.

How do you think.its going to go when people like this admin , fill their heads with the ideas if all these " options " only then for thr child to be faced with the reality that no one can or will pay up to do it/take them somewhere that will do it, it obviously will create an.extremely precarious situation where parents and drs are the enemies and the only ones who get it are these Internet people

FrancescaContini · 14/04/2022 16:12

The flippancy of the idea - oh, you don’t like having periods, never mind, you can have a hysterectomy Confused

NotMeekNotObedient · 14/04/2022 16:11

Awful. This poor child.

Whatwouldscullydo · 14/04/2022 16:09

Whether or not a dr would do them its still not something that should be suggested to a child or to the parents of that child. Even talking about it means you are affirming that the child's body is wrong. That's not even something trans charities think any more. That the bodies are wrong.

You can be non binary with periods and breasts right? Of adult males can declare they are women whilst making no changes whatsoever why are we indulging children thinking they need to bind their breasts amd stop their periods.