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'Don't match female refugees with single men, UN says'

56 replies

DomesticatedZombie · 14/04/2022 14:30

How are you defining 'men', UN?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61099131

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BobLep0nge · 14/04/2022 19:09

I think making stereotypes and generalisations about any very broad group of human beings, millions of human beings, is never good

I'll listen to the argument for NAMALT when males stop committing 98% of sexual crimes.

Artichokeleaves · 14/04/2022 19:09

I think the point is that it's more important that female refugees are exposed to risk and harm than we risk male people having hurt feelings and feeling offended by association.

I have to say I don't agree.

NewBootsAndRanty · 14/04/2022 19:06

The world female population is 3,951,626,924.
None of them have sexually assaulted me.

Unfortunately I can't say the same about men.

stripeyflowers · 14/04/2022 19:01

@JC544D

The world male population is 3.97 billion males.
?
NewBootsAndRanty · 14/04/2022 19:00

@JC544D

The world male population is 3.97 billion males.
And?
JC544D · 14/04/2022 18:48

The world male population is 3.97 billion males.

NewBootsAndRanty · 14/04/2022 18:47

@JC544D

So does this include male doctors, nurses, teachers, carers... etc?
Are they somehow immune from being predatory? www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61107919
JC544D · 14/04/2022 18:47

The European male population is 361.2 million in 2022.

Sexnotgender · 14/04/2022 18:45

@Artichokeleaves

Oh how about Met police officers?

They're safe as houses aren't they? How about MPs? (Sec while I check today's papers for 'nice' blokes just done for sex offence convictions...)

Just today was reading about a GP done for a myriad of sexual offences against women and girls.
Sexnotgender · 14/04/2022 18:44

@JC544D

So does this include male doctors, nurses, teachers, carers... etc?
Of course. Why would it not?
Artichokeleaves · 14/04/2022 18:42

Oh how about Met police officers?

They're safe as houses aren't they? How about MPs? (Sec while I check today's papers for 'nice' blokes just done for sex offence convictions...)

JC544D · 14/04/2022 18:33

So does this include male doctors, nurses, teachers, carers... etc?

Artichokeleaves · 14/04/2022 18:18

Difference between generalisation and basic pattern recognition and common sense though. Willful naivety and fact blindness for political virtue is so 2021.

98% and all that.

JC544D · 14/04/2022 18:17

I think making stereotypes and generalisations about any very broad group of human beings, millions of human beings, is never good.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 14/04/2022 18:06

@MargaritaPie

IMO I think saying "man bad, woman good" is an extreme over-simplification, and it's worth noting that anyone can be a sex trafficker.

It's best IMO to try to avoid generalisations and take each case into consideration individually.

But MP on what grounds would anyone have confidence in your reading comprehension or general perspective on matters.

There have been so many times when your own links don't support the interpretation that you claim to the point of saying the opposite and contradicting you so it would seem unwise to rely upon you in this sensitive area.

NewBootsAndRanty · 14/04/2022 18:04

I wondered when Ms PIE would turn up to defend the menz...

DomesticatedZombie · 14/04/2022 18:02

With your keen interest on the subject you should maybe get in touch with the UN and offer them your thoughts, Margarita.

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MargaritaPie · 14/04/2022 17:53

IMO I think saying "man bad, woman good" is an extreme over-simplification, and it's worth noting that anyone can be a sex trafficker.

It's best IMO to try to avoid generalisations and take each case into consideration individually.

ChopinBoard · 14/04/2022 17:13

But, but, but no man would go to such lengths just to abuse women and children! Ffs, when will apologists realise that there are men who would do literally anything to abuse women and children?!

The whole thing is disgusting and not remotely surprising.

DomesticatedZombie · 14/04/2022 17:03

Yes, 2Gen. I think there are going to have to be some swift realisations that waving away all the sex differences as colonial indulgence is likely to lead to some horrendously dangerous situations.

' the head of safeguarding at Refugee Action has previously told the Observer the scheme was at risk of becoming a "Tinder for sex traffickers". '

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2Gen · 14/04/2022 16:41

Well this is going to be a disaster, seeing as the UN and governments and judges now claim they can't even define what a woman is, in which case they will probably soon be claiming they can't define what a man is either! They're lying of course, they know damn well! Shame on them!
As if these poor women and children haven't suffered enough already!

AmandaHoldensLips · 14/04/2022 16:36

So sick of these creepy bastard men who will take advantage of any opportunity to exploit women and girls for their sexual gratification. It's disgusting and makes me want to burn everything down.

IsabelaMadrigal · 14/04/2022 16:30

Housing is at a premium because of the housing market and not available properties versus amount of people.

I don't know, I'll get clobbered here but maybe an incentive for landlords to rent their second homes out to refugees.

Dougalskeeper · 14/04/2022 16:26

What " proper communities and facilities"? Housing is at a premium in the UK. Not that I think these refugees should be housed with any old Tom, Dick, or Harry . Maybe only refugees with relatives resident in the UK should be accepted, if they are not being resettled as a family unit.

Artichokeleaves · 14/04/2022 16:22

Ok so we've worked out that women and female arent the same thing when you get right down to it... well done UN, thats a baby step in the right direction.

Now let's work out what you mean by 'men' and then whether you've had to acknowledge a bit of reality that doesn't half mess with the rest of your tripe.

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