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Women's football. Next?

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namechangeranonymouse · 13/04/2022 15:11

I was watching the women's england team last night and thought to myself, wouldn't it be easy for a team of transwomen (aka men) to take over all the female places in the team? I mean we (England) would win every women's game if we had strapping transgender footballers playing for us.

Points up the ridiculousness of the current sporting mass blindness thats being touted.

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334bu · 14/04/2022 09:20

Or an elte player who is now too old to play with the men.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 13/04/2022 23:59

@fridgepants

Are you suggesting a male player transitions purely to do this? If so, you should note the gulf in money and esteem between the men's and women's game pretty much everywhere.

There are 12 fully professional women's teams in England. The salary is considerably less than men's players in the lower league divisions. There would be absolutely no benefit for a skilled male footballer to transition purely in the hope of playing on a women's team.

There is no financial incentive for an elite male footballer to give up playing in the men's premier league to play on a female team in any division. That's true.

However, that's not what the OP was talking about. The OP was musing about the international possibilities that could open up for a mediocre male player who had no chance of being picked for the men's England team.

Premiership footballers do not compete to play for their country in the World Cup or the European Cup purely for the money; they're rich enough from domestic matches. It's the prestige and glory of international matches they're interested in.

When you take into account that other sports have allowed male transitioners to play on both men's and women's teams, it's possible that such a player wouldn't even have to sacrifice the dayjob as a player in Division 1 or 2.

Helleofabore · 13/04/2022 23:54

Although this is Rugby not Football, this has just come to light.

twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1513994249427030018?s=21&t=DZWSzSvGye9vN_l75uleWw

Guam: 3 female athletes were injured in a Rugby game by a transgender athlete who was “aggressive in nature.”

The head coach says “body size, body strength.. completely dominate any girl that I have on my team”

Why do females even bother playing?

While rugby is obviously a higher risk contact sport, football still has risk of significant injury with a male on the field in a female game.

Truthlikeness · 13/04/2022 23:36

I don't think any transwomen 'transition'' purely to play sport, but the fact is - once transitioned - you may find yourself competing at a level several orders of magnitude beyond what you were previously capable of, and I imagine that could be quite seductive, as well as validating in your new gender.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 13/04/2022 22:10

No, absolutely right chopin

ChopinBoard · 13/04/2022 21:44

@RufustheFloralmissingreindeer

There would be absolutely no benefit for a skilled male footballer to transition purely in the hope of playing on a women's team

The whole point is that they wouldn’t need to be a skilled male footballer

Probably wouldn't need to do anything to "transition" either. Not that humans CAN transition from one sex to another, anyway. No men in women's teams, regardless of how they think of themselves, what they do to their bodies or how much they really, really want to. Men can never be women. The whole thing is absurd.
RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 13/04/2022 20:56

There would be absolutely no benefit for a skilled male footballer to transition purely in the hope of playing on a women's team

The whole point is that they wouldn’t need to be a skilled male footballer

CatProcrastinator1 · 13/04/2022 20:36

The FA have been very effectively Stonewalled. See what happens when people speak out.
twitter.com/fairplaywomen/status/1509808886471143424

Circumferences · 13/04/2022 19:17

@fridgepants

Are you suggesting a male player transitions purely to do this? If so, you should note the gulf in money and esteem between the men's and women's game pretty much everywhere.

There are 12 fully professional women's teams in England. The salary is considerably less than men's players in the lower league divisions. There would be absolutely no benefit for a skilled male footballer to transition purely in the hope of playing on a women's team.

Most women are beyond the point of caring why a man "transitions" to be honest. The fact is, whatever the motivation for deciding to declare oneself as a woman when you're not one, is that you're not one.
Helleofabore · 13/04/2022 19:01

It really seems that some posters have not read the accounts of the 3 women's international teams beaten by school boy teams. USA, Australia and Brazil.

Not only that, but as pp say, an ageing male could just as easily extend their playing time. A rugby player has done this in Australia. The male is over 50 playing in a local women's team with players decades younger and cannot understand why women immediately can work out that that is a male and not a female ... hint.... no menopausal women are playing in that division of rugby at all!

So, I really think while it is great that posters think that while the female teams are highly skilled that no mediocre male will get into those teams, it seems more like those posters are not well informed at all.

Phobiaphobic · 13/04/2022 18:35

@Abhannmor

Then other teams would have to field some strapping transgenders and so it goes on absurdly.
What I find astonishing amongst trans activists and those that support/enable them is that they can't see that this is the inevitable end point of their ideology.
Truthlikeness · 13/04/2022 18:06

@WarriorN

No they've been researching how to max performance for women via cycle tracking apps - I believe it put Chelsea at the top of their game.

Footballers know what a woman is.

It's a great app by the way.

You've evidently not read the FA guidance on transgender inclusion in football. A man could pretty much walk into any league right now. I'm seeing it more and more at the lower levels.

www.thefa.com/news/2016/mar/22/guidance-trans-people-in-football

I think football absolutely needs to be next after cycling. It has the added aspect of being dangerous to the female players as well as grossly unfair.

334bu · 13/04/2022 17:48

There are already male players who identify as women playing professionally in female top flight teams. They may not be good enough to play professional men's football but they can still earn a living playing with women.

FromOurHatsToOurFeet · 13/04/2022 17:30

Given that women are too emotional to play football www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61094432 perhaps replacing them with less hysterical people would be an idea Hmm

Mysterioso · 13/04/2022 17:28

There was a moment during the latest Olympic football matches when it became useless to mark a certain player or try to get the ball back once they'd got it.
It was painful to watch... but winning was more important than fair play? women? I don't know, take your pick, it doesn't seem to matter.

oliviastwisted · 13/04/2022 16:57

www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/iran-men-women-national-team-24918569

Not proven but if you read this article had the women on the Iranian team transitioned, that would have been fine.

Babdoc · 13/04/2022 16:09

It extends the men’s playing career. Retire from men’s football in your thirties, discover your feminine side, play in women’s football until your fifties.

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namechangeranonymouse · 13/04/2022 15:57

@fridgepants

Are you suggesting a male player transitions purely to do this? If so, you should note the gulf in money and esteem between the men's and women's game pretty much everywhere.

There are 12 fully professional women's teams in England. The salary is considerably less than men's players in the lower league divisions. There would be absolutely no benefit for a skilled male footballer to transition purely in the hope of playing on a women's team.

If an under 15 male can beat a top female football team, then its obvious a male footballer who is not top flight could say he was a woman and play for England.

I'm not saying a man would do this just to gain entry into the woman's team, I'm saying a man who considers himself a woman would have an unfair advantage. Its happening in swimming and cycling, so why not football. We'd have an amazing team!

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ButTheyAintSeenUsTogether · 13/04/2022 15:56

@girlmom21

Well no it wouldn't be that easy unless all the people transitioning were professional footballers too.

The England womens team are highly skilled players and womens football is savage.

Why would you need to ask your friend which toilet she uses if you accept her as a woman?

They wouldn’t need to be professional footballers to make the women’s team look like they’ve never kicked a ball.

Trans women are men so shouldn’t be using the women’s toilet. I couldn’t be friends with a trans woman that used the women’s toilet. It shows a complete lack of respect for women.

fridgepants · 13/04/2022 15:51

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WarriorN · 13/04/2022 15:48

No they've been researching how to max performance for women via cycle tracking apps - I believe it put Chelsea at the top of their game.

Footballers know what a woman is.

It's a great app by the way.

NitroNine · 13/04/2022 15:46

If it’s good enough for Iran…

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namechangeranonymouse · 13/04/2022 15:45

Why would you need to ask your friend which toilet she uses if you accept her as a woman?

I accept her gender reassignment, I didn't say I accepted her as a woman. She is not a woman.

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