Owen Jones has relentlessly persecuted women online, including his own colleagues. An external investigator brought in by The Guardian has found him guilty of bullying a female columnist.

The extreme and exaggerating language that the trans activists use is why debate just is not possible.

He has a twin sister and a mother that im pretty sure he doesnt hate
I feel so sorry for the sister and mother.

Rent free?
Not really.

He's Percy Prefect.

And if all a person can say in defence of their view is that they're entitled to have it, they're usually full of shit.

Omg this is so true!

Has anybody managed to track down where the statement from the 'Guardian spokesman' came from?

I'm not suggesting that LOJ made it up, but I would like to read the full statement.

When I was new to OJ a few years ago he was involved in some hoo-ha and there was a Twitter blowup. I had no opinion on him but the main thing that struck me was just how many journalists really disliked him, across the board. It wasn’t just people who pick fights or like to be nasty and encourage pile-ons either, it was lots of reasonable people too.

And if all a person can say in defence of their view is that they're entitled to have it, they're usually full of shit.

This! Perfectly put.

Saucery

He’s vile. He thinks a trace of a Northern accent is enough to undo his very privileged, middle class white upbringing and propel him to ‘man-of-the-people’ status. He is a horrific misogynist whose faux-concern for women and people of colour only pops out when he needs them as canon fodder in his war against the right wing. His only genuine concern in life seems to be ensuring trans ‘women’ have unfettered access to female only spaces regardless of the consequences.

I can honestly say I dislike him more than Boris Johnson.

If you had that level of understanding then it might seem self-evident that the existence of women in the family would be QED as evidence against misogyny.

NB: to clear all all doubt, I'd still attend a dentist rather than a toothiologist.

Well here's what I reckon.

The Guardian should open comments on all of OJ's columns.

He's got a sister, everyone! Stand down!

Totes not a misogynist. My bad

He has some women in his family, you say? Oh well then, that settles it

[quote Tana433]@EmbarrassingHadrosaurus Well i could, but i have just as much right to express my opinion a you do and as any of us on here do. No ones opinion is any better or worse than anyone elses. We can agree to disagree but im just saying that none of us has worked with him personnally so we dont know and i dont think he deserves the relentless pile on he is subjected to every day on twitter. Thats all, i have no horse in this race.[/quote]
Actually, you've declared that you know little and understand less about the topic so I wonder if you might reconsider your stance given that admission.

How very pomo of you to consider equivalence of opinions given your lack of both familiarity and knowledge. You could, of course, choose to share your reckon.

However, given your sympathy and framing of "relentless pile on" v. that experienced by women such as Sharron Davies, Maya Forstater etc. it seems that you do consider yourself to have a horse in the race and prize the knowledge/understanding that you do have and weight it in the favour of OJ. I'm sure that he will treasure the full value of it.

[quote Tana433]@EmbarrassingHadrosaurus Well i could, but i have just as much right to express my opinion a you do and as any of us on here do. No ones opinion is any better or worse than anyone elses. We can agree to disagree but im just saying that none of us has worked with him personnally so we dont know and i dont think he deserves the relentless pile on he is subjected to every day on twitter. Thats all, i have no horse in this race.[/quote]
No, some opinions are better than others. And if all a person can say in defence of their view is that they're entitled to have it, they're usually full of shit.

It’s not so much he lives rent free in your head. It’s more like you hear a frantic, angry squeaking and look down and there he is. Petulantly opining about women daring to disagree with him.

@EmbarrassingHadrosaurus Well i could, but i have just as much right to express my opinion a you do and as any of us on here do. No ones opinion is any better or worse than anyone elses. We can agree to disagree but im just saying that none of us has worked with him personnally so we dont know and i dont think he deserves the relentless pile on he is subjected to every day on twitter. Thats all, i have no horse in this race.

i confess i do not know nearly enough about much less understand

I wonder if you might have the courtesy to consider that others do understand more about it and choose to discuss it without any guidance from those of you who don't?

Hi Owen 👋

I find it quite hilarious how OJ seems to live rent-free in so many people's heads. Unless you know him personnally, you have no idea if he is a bully or not. He stands up for trans rights ( topic i confess i do not know nearly enough about much less understand) Why would you say he hates women? He has a twin sister and a mother that im pretty sure he doesnt hate. It could be said that there are many on here that hate men. I honestly dont get it. Live and let live. If you dont like him then ignore him, i doubt he will loose much sleep over it.