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Owen Jones has relentlessly persecuted women online, including his own colleagues. An external investigator brought in by The Guardian has found him guilty of bullying a female columnist.

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ChristinaXYZ · 13/04/2022 10:30

"Owen Jones has relentlessly persecuted women online, including his own colleagues. An external investigator brought in by The Guardian has found him guilty of bullying a female columnist."

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zanahoria · 18/04/2022 13:01

He must be dead

Only rational explanation

DomesticatedZombie · 18/04/2022 12:43

Still no tweets? Crikey.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 18/04/2022 12:42

Has anyone found the full Guardian statement yet? I'd ask Jones where it is, but he hasn't tweeted anything (except a retweet of someone else, who posted a picture of a shirtless Owen) since 14th April.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 16/04/2022 12:26

[Goldsmiths] confirmed that she was an employee but would not explain which department she worked in or why she appeared to be listed twice in the staff directory: once as Mark Hellen, in the department of educational studies, and secondly as Natacha Kennedy, who is named in equality and diversity reports. Both profiles appear to be active.

It also remained unclear why an academic paper on Ms Kennedy’s specialist subject of transgenderism in children, published by the Graduate Journal of Social Sciences in 2010, cited two co-authors: Natacha Kennedy and Mark Hellen.

Neither Ms Kennedy nor Goldsmiths would clarify whether the paper was by two individuals or the same person. A spokesman said: “Goldsmiths prides itself on its inclusive community and is committed to the values of freedom of speech within the law.”

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/04/2022 08:23

No that was Giuliana London. Similar former name though.

CompulsiveSoupEater · 16/04/2022 07:21

Was it Kennedy who had Linda Bellos and Venice Allen in court for the crime of being able to correctly sex human beings?

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 15/04/2022 23:02

@ResisterRex

Does this work?

[[https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/eb941d92-b2ec-11e8-8fb1-ac438dd6af00?shareToken=cd065f748b0d53aea0882e273efcb992]]

I never knew this:

"Aimee Challenor, the former Green Party candidate who used her father as her election agent even though he was facing charges of raping and torturing a ten-year-old girl, for which he was later jailed, was among those who responded to Ms Kennedy’s post of August 14 to the Trans Rights UK Facebook group, with suggestions of who to blacklist. All the named academics were women."

Some of those apparently targeted included Stock and Freedman. That article is from 2018 - about a large but closed group that listed people who ran courses to avoid, I think. Of Stock, this was written in the group's page:

"“File a hate crime report against her, and then the chairman and vice-chair,” advised one. “Drag them over the f*ing coals.”"

This still works for anyone who doesn't have access to the Times :

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6145781/University-researcher-asked-Facebook-group-circulate-list-academics-disagreed-her.html

NK has an interesting co-author policy, of course.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3545194-Who-is-the-trans-academic-who-cited-own-work-under-previous-name

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 15/04/2022 22:22

Stand down! The comment from Kennedy is still there, just displaying in a different place in the thread.

TheWayOfTheWorld · 15/04/2022 22:19

I'm sure such a crowdfunder would be a great success, just like Dr Christian Jesse. Oh wait...

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 15/04/2022 22:13

Kennedy may be watching this thread. The exhortation to Owen to sue Private Eye is no longer visible. Fortunately, I took a photograph in case I had problems with my eyesight at a later date.

Owen Jones has relentlessly persecuted women online, including his own colleagues. An external investigator brought in by The Guardian has found him guilty of bullying a female columnist.
TheScienceStupid · 15/04/2022 22:03

I love that his Guardian profile says "Owen Jones is a Guardian columnist and the author of [...] The Establishment – And How They Get Away With It". Write about what you know, as they say...

ResisterRex · 15/04/2022 21:51

Does this work?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/eb941d92-b2ec-11e8-8fb1-ac438dd6af00?shareToken=cd065f748b0d53aea0882e273efcb992

I never knew this:

"Aimee Challenor, the former Green Party candidate who used her father as her election agent even though he was facing charges of raping and torturing a ten-year-old girl, for which he was later jailed, was among those who responded to Ms Kennedy’s post of August 14 to the Trans Rights UK Facebook group, with suggestions of who to blacklist. All the named academics were women."

Some of those apparently targeted included Stock and Freedman. That article is from 2018 - about a large but closed group that listed people who ran courses to avoid, I think. Of Stock, this was written in the group's page:

"“File a hate crime report against her, and then the chairman and vice-chair,” advised one. “Drag them over the f*ing coals.”"

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 15/04/2022 21:45

@Deliriumoftheendless

I’m guessing those telling him to sue The Eye have never read it or know what it is.
This appears to be one of the people urging him to sue.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-goldsmiths-lecturer-natacha-kennedy-behind-smear-campaign-against-academics-f2zqbl222

Sorry, no share token.

Bertiebiscuit · 15/04/2022 21:23

He's a nasty entitled little pr*ck, everyone knows he hates women, especially women with any power, wealth and opinions - he belongs to a cadre of lefty men who would like nothing better than to take us back to the time when women had no rights, were not treated as humans, only allowed to exist to make dinner, tea and babies

Deliriumoftheendless · 15/04/2022 20:54

I’m guessing those telling him to sue The Eye have never read it or know what it is.

Organictangerine · 15/04/2022 20:02

Did he ever comment on Priti Patel not resigning after her bullying inquiry?

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 15/04/2022 19:57

Whoever the originator of that document is, whose draft Owen Jones had seen, he/she/voidgender is a slow typist. I still can't find the full, public-facing version of a statement anywhere on the Guardian website.

People on Owen's facebook page are urging him to sue Private Eye. I look forward to it.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 15/04/2022 19:29

It's not a print-out though, because the software grammar check alerts are showing.

This is either a screenshot sent to Owen by someone else who was writing it, or a screenshot of a document open on Owen's laptop/phone, which Owen had editing powers on.

ScribblingPixie · 15/04/2022 18:44

Don't you think the Guardian 'statement' was just him getting on to his commissioning editor and asking them if they could dash off an email saying he wasn't found guilty of bullying? It's just his snapshot of a printout. I see John McDonnell's tweeted it, saying it's a smear campaign 'as Owen asked him too' - to whole-heartedly critical responses. Pathetic stuff.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 15/04/2022 18:39

@Organictangerine

The only person Owen cares about is Owen. He pretends to give a shit about women and minorities to ‘make up the numbers’ in his fight against the right wing - the ‘right wing’ of course being anyone who doesn’t completely and unquestioningly agree with everything he says.

He thinks his (very light) trace of Mancunian accent and sexuality are enough to negate all the privilege he’s had in life - being white, male, able-bodied, middle class, Oxbridge, graduate ‘parliamentary researcher’ job. They don’t. Nimco got it spot on.

Sheffield, actually, but yes, otherwise, spot on.
PurgatoryOfPotholes · 15/04/2022 18:35

Back in October, OJ tweeted this:

Who are the voices on the police and institutional misogyny that need to be amplified right now (obviously exclusively women)?

twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1443984954141155344?t=yyDOP8q7hs6dMBv3PQc0rg&s=19

In response, people dutifully tagged in women who've analysed police misogyny and institutional misogyny for him to talk to. One by one, those women replied to say, what have you tagged me into? I'm blocked, so I can't see what he posted.

Women are not a minority, but we are a marginalised group. Usually, when you have blocked large numbers of advocates for a particular marginalised group's rights, who also belong to that group, you need to take a long, hard look at yourself. I suppose Owen Jones would say it's the way they advocate. If they were just a bit more moderate, a bit more conciliatory, a bit less demanding in the way they speak up for women's rights...

Otherwise known as tone-policing.

Organictangerine · 15/04/2022 18:06

The only person Owen cares about is Owen. He pretends to give a shit about women and minorities to ‘make up the numbers’ in his fight against the right wing - the ‘right wing’ of course being anyone who doesn’t completely and unquestioningly agree with everything he says.

He thinks his (very light) trace of Mancunian accent and sexuality are enough to negate all the privilege he’s had in life - being white, male, able-bodied, middle class, Oxbridge, graduate ‘parliamentary researcher’ job. They don’t. Nimco got it spot on.

DomesticatedZombie · 15/04/2022 17:57

@SpinningMeSoftly

'[The Guardian] is edited by Twitter.'

Spot on, Suzanne; and a not inappriopriate F.U. to Viner.

That is an indictment.
ResisterRex · 15/04/2022 17:39

That sentence:

"In relation to X it is not true that..."

It doesn't quite have the style of a press release. "In relation to" isn't great written English, is it? It seems quasi-spoken English, not a formal statement about a serious matter that's been leaked.

SpinningMeSoftly · 15/04/2022 17:24

'[The Guardian] is edited by Twitter.'

Spot on, Suzanne; and a not inappriopriate F.U. to Viner.

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