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Owen Jones has relentlessly persecuted women online, including his own colleagues. An external investigator brought in by The Guardian has found him guilty of bullying a female columnist.

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ChristinaXYZ · 13/04/2022 10:30

"Owen Jones has relentlessly persecuted women online, including his own colleagues. An external investigator brought in by The Guardian has found him guilty of bullying a female columnist."

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HardyBuckette · 27/04/2022 10:56

The most sensible option would seem to be him keeping schtum and waiting for the matter to die down. However that requires an ability to shut the fuck up.

ControversialOpening · 27/04/2022 10:19

I can't wait to see how Squealer tries to twist this one.

Another 'statement from the Guardian' that nobody can find the source for, or maybe "they're only women terfs so it doesn't matter".

ResisterRex · 27/04/2022 10:01

"Misleading quasi-denials". Latest in the Eye:

twitter.com/tlitb/status/1519231934290874369

DomesticatedZombie · 20/04/2022 09:39

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SpinningMeSoftly · 20/04/2022 09:04

He's had to settle for writing a 'column' in the Guardian today about French politics and even that is a foolish narrative about the long-time Putin fan Jean-Luc Mélenchon and how young voters can't vote for him any more boo hoo Jeremy Corbyn boo hoo.

DomesticatedZombie · 19/04/2022 13:29

Well, yes, Pear. It's the old 'it's only a few women/children/people' who are getting cheated/raped/assaulted, so shush and stop complaining.

Bit of an odd argument, imo, but there you go.

PearPickingPorky · 19/04/2022 13:06

@DomesticatedZombie

OJ: 'almost no trans people are athletes' Hmm
"Almost no" athletes are dopers either.

We still don't allow it, because
a) it's unfair, and
b) if we did allow it, then all over a sudden there would be many more athletes doping, by virtue of it being permitted to gain an unfair advantage.

DomesticatedZombie · 19/04/2022 11:23

OJ: 'almost no trans people are athletes' Hmm

DomesticatedZombie · 19/04/2022 11:21

From 37 minutes discussing rules on trans athletes

www.channel5.com/show/jeremy-vine/

PearPickingPorky · 19/04/2022 10:45

@Somanysocks

He also said 'pregnant women' so maybe he's learning.
He's not. He doesn't actually believe all the gender bullshit he spouts (very few do), and he accidentally let's that slip when he's trying to think on his feet.
Somanysocks · 19/04/2022 10:34

He also said 'pregnant women' so maybe he's learning.

Somanysocks · 19/04/2022 10:33

LOJ said this morning that going to university taught him how to construct an argument. He has certainly taken that and run with it.

Supersee · 19/04/2022 10:27

@PearPickingPorky if I had Twitter I'd probably ask them that question myself. I've had to switch over, I can't watch him and feel positive thoughts at the same time.

PearPickingPorky · 19/04/2022 10:23

@Supersee

Seems someone at C5 really likes LOJ. He's back on Jeremy Vine this morning.
I'd love to know what the people who work on Jeremy Vine think of him.

I remember he once went off on a monologue about the awful misogyny that's running through society, and I thought "you hypocritical snivelling little shit. Surely everyone there is thinking the same as me".

Supersee · 19/04/2022 10:00

Seems someone at C5 really likes LOJ. He's back on Jeremy Vine this morning.

PearPickingPorky · 18/04/2022 14:16

"Harrassment and intimidation" is just another word for bullying, really, isn't it. In fact, I think it's worse than bullying.

He's a bona fide menace to women.

PronounssheRa · 18/04/2022 14:02

@HardyBuckette

If I were a betting woman I'd say he's been told to keep schtum.
The alternative is OJ has taken on board that countless women have said his behaviour is unacceptable and OJ is reflecting on how he can be a better person.

I haven't seen any evidence that OJ is capable of self reflection though.

HardyBuckette · 18/04/2022 13:58

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

I think he got told to stay off twitter until Easter is over, and the HR dept are back at work.
That does sound like a sensible idea. Things escalate, people have a drink, it's warm weather and he can't be trusted.
HardyBuckette · 18/04/2022 13:54

Assuming the statement is genuine and Owen didn't invent it, which surely would be just too batshit, I wonder if what went on was so bad that this genuinely is the best spin they could put on it. As in, there was an investigation, it found he'd done various things but the term bullying wasn't ever used so they could plausibly deny that. That this sort of is the Guardian going out to bat, or as much as they think they can in the circumstances. They do have substantial motivation to minimise any bullying or mistreatment that went on, after all.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 18/04/2022 13:49

I think he got told to stay off twitter until Easter is over, and the HR dept are back at work.

BreadInCaptivity · 18/04/2022 13:44

I still haven't seen anything from The Guardian apart from that statement LOJ put out on Twitter that had no provenance apart from his say so.

It's hardly suggestive of his employer going in hard to bat for him.

I'll bet something is going on behind the scenes and it wouldn't surprise me if he's been told to keep his head down.

It's a weird dynamic though isn't it? Much of his SM platform was built on the back of his Guardian columns and now the Guardian is seemingly in thrall to that power.

HardyBuckette · 18/04/2022 13:26

We can but hope.

Organictangerine · 18/04/2022 13:20

@HardyBuckette

If I were a betting woman I'd say he's been told to keep schtum.
Hopefully forever.
HardyBuckette · 18/04/2022 13:12

If I were a betting woman I'd say he's been told to keep schtum.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 18/04/2022 13:03

I think he tweeted more than this when he was on holiday in Malta with the Novara media set.

P.S. Malta has the strictest laws on termination in Europe, and even if a woman has an ectopic pregnancy which will kill her if not terminated, she and her surgeon have to wait for permission to operate to be individually granted, on a case-by-case basis.

It's got self-ID for trans people though, so it's the Progressives' Pet Principality.

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