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Owen Jones has relentlessly persecuted women online, including his own colleagues. An external investigator brought in by The Guardian has found him guilty of bullying a female columnist.

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ChristinaXYZ · 13/04/2022 10:30

"Owen Jones has relentlessly persecuted women online, including his own colleagues. An external investigator brought in by The Guardian has found him guilty of bullying a female columnist."

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NotBadConsidering · 13/04/2022 11:46

Is it really 'cancel culture' to sack men who systematically abuse and bully women?

This is going to be interesting. How is LOJ going to defend himself? If he claims the attempts to have him held accountable for bullying women is cancel culture it makes him a hypocrite (which we already know):

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"Cancel culture" is public figures using their privileged platforms to complain about people using social media to criticise them, normally because of their publicly expressed views about minorities who are hugely underrepresented in public life.

I predict he will gaslight everyone and pretend nothing has happened and there is nothing to see and ignore it all.

zafferana · 13/04/2022 11:45

When Suzanne Moore left The Guardian and said that she'd been bullied out of there I just knew LOJ was involved. Outrageous that the paper is still protecting him and that a month after the report was published upper management still don't know that Jones was found guilty of bullying a colleague. Odious little 'be kind' twerp. Isn't it always the ones who screech loudest about being bullied who are the real bullies?

Rubidium · 13/04/2022 11:43

I wonder who leaked this to The Eye.

AlisonDonut · 13/04/2022 11:32

@hamstersarse

He is a massive prick and none of this is surprising but......I am against cancel culture in general and even Owen Jones doesn't deserve to be completely and utterly trashed in every way possible.

Yes, he may lose his job, but only if he has broken specific rules of employment, not just because some mob comes after him

How many women is he allowed to bully and harass before it breaks a specific rule of employment? I'd say '1', but you may differ on that.

Is it really 'cancel culture' to sack men who systematically abuse and bully women?

BacklashBacklash · 13/04/2022 11:27

But - but women wanting sex-based rights are literally violent. So all means to stop then opening their mouths and spweing hateful words are legitimate - throwing milkshakes over them, bullying them, punching them, threatening to rape and kill them. All righteous actions when used against bad people.

Hoardasurass · 13/04/2022 11:26

Hmm I suppose that we could look at this as a very important and necessary step forward. The guardian are now on official notice that they have a very nasty bully working for them who has form for bullying women who have the protected characteristic of belief (thank you maya) for expressing said belief, and not only has he repeatedly breached their social media policy but doesn't care. Unless they seriously clip his wings and have evidence of them doing so when he next goes after another colleague the guardian will be liable in an employment tribunal for his actions along with OJ. This could end very badly for the guardian

DameHelena · 13/04/2022 11:23

Great news! Odious little twerp.

Lynnthesearesexnotgenderpeople · 13/04/2022 11:19

This shit hurts people like OJ so much more than it would hurt others though. His whole 'thing' is that he is such a Great Guy and that is basically the sole reason why he is right on everything and everyone should agree with him. Because he is on the 'Righteous Side' on every issue, he is the voice of virtue and compassion. No need for actual arguments or anything like that then, you see? Just knowing that you are on the Right Side of History when you agree with such a Great Guy such as Owen is enough.

Things like this rather shatter that whole set up, don't they?

tabbycatstripy · 13/04/2022 11:16

‘I am against cancel culture in general and even Owen Jones doesn't deserve to be completely and utterly trashed in every way possible.’

Being sacked isn’t being cancelled. I’m not sure whether he should sacked or not, but employers can’t let some staff bully other staff without following their processes.

Cancellations happen when due process isn’t followed. People just quietly lose contracts, no investigation happens, they receive no explanation. People distance themselves despite the fact that the person is telling the truth or hasn’t done anything wrong.

Rightsraptor · 13/04/2022 11:14

At least this is now publicly acknowledged and might impact on his career. I'll lay reasonable money on him clearing off to the US one day soon. In which case, I'll lock the door behind him.

SolasAnla · 13/04/2022 11:12

@teawamutu

Interesting to know that the Grauniad was concerned enough to actually do something about his conduct, although I seriously doubt he'll face any consequences.
The reason independently verifiable investigations take place is that management expect litigation. Its classic cover the bank balance defensive taticts. Failure to act after facts are proven increese the contingent liability if sued for bullying in the workplace. Acting to discipline an employee is easier and it helps build a strong defence if the employee is subsequently dismissed for cause.
hamstersarse · 13/04/2022 11:08

He is a massive prick and none of this is surprising but......I am against cancel culture in general and even Owen Jones doesn't deserve to be completely and utterly trashed in every way possible.

Yes, he may lose his job, but only if he has broken specific rules of employment, not just because some mob comes after him

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 13/04/2022 11:08

@Electrox

About time he was called out on his misogyny.
I may be wrong but I assume the more recent case might have Sonia Sodha at the heart of it in which case this highlights rather spectacularly why Owen Jones should not be leading/hosting/affiliated with any EDI/D&I event.
WorkingItOutAsIGo · 13/04/2022 11:08

In shock news, man who doesn’t like women is mean to women.

I used to love The Guardian: now it’s on my list with Oxfam.

Lynnthesearesexnotgenderpeople · 13/04/2022 11:06

I think he is definitely going to do a Hopkins/Farage and set his sights on America. Who will be his natural contemporaries there though....Vaush?!

ResisterRex · 13/04/2022 11:04

A report so secret that the complainant doesn't know "what, if any" sanctions would be imposed. And most of the Graun's upper management are in the dark as well.

Private Eye calls him a writer, not a journalist.

Lynnthesearesexnotgenderpeople · 13/04/2022 11:03

Gets popcorn for how he is going to wriggle out of this one on Twitter.

He is such an unpleasant little man. His stupid furrowed brow, the faux incredulous/puzzled look when talking about any view that he is not 100% on board with, the air of superiority that comes with everything. And I'm sure he enjoys deliberately pronouncing JKRs name wrong.

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WinterTrees · 13/04/2022 11:01

At least his reputation is officially trashed now.

Everyone has known for ages that he's an odious little misogynist troll but he was able to maintain the charade of being a journalist. The Guardian are tainted by their association with someone who is, by their own admission, offensive, intimidating and a bully.

Grantanow · 13/04/2022 11:00

Sack him!

Electrox · 13/04/2022 10:59

About time he was called out on his misogyny.

Rodedooda · 13/04/2022 10:57

Nasty misogynist

Seriously though, what is his agenda?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 13/04/2022 10:53

Day after day I'm reminded why it was such a positive act in cancelling my paid for Guardian subscription

SpinningMeSoftly · 13/04/2022 10:53

So now what happens?

He's got another article in it today, grifting away. Is he just going to arse lick the Americans now?

ChristinaXYZ · 13/04/2022 10:50

@teawamutu

Interesting to know that the Grauniad was concerned enough to actually do something about his conduct, although I seriously doubt he'll face any consequences.
Getting a report is not really doing anything about it though is it? As you say - where are the actually consequences? Where's the apology, the contrition, the change in behaviour?
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EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 13/04/2022 10:48

Like Bercow and Patel, when do any of these people face consequences for their behaviour?