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What is a Woman? Advert. The tide is truly turning...

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Appalonia · 13/04/2022 10:00

"Florida-based watch manufacturer Egard Watches has created an ad spot in defense of biological women’s rights.

What are the details?
The video opens with footage of accomplished women, including female athletes and others, and shows women through the decades and even centuries fighting for equal rights.

"What is a woman?" the female narrator says. "Is women's history of achievements quickly being erased? Is a woman a feminine force of nature? Is a woman a sister, a daughter, a mother? Is a woman the wonder of childbirth?"

"Is a woman a caregiver?" the narrator continues. "Is a woman a warrior who fought for her place?"

The video continues, "Is that now being taken away, soon to be forgotten? Is that not worth protecting? And how long do we sit idly by and not stand for the sacred value of womanhood as it loses all meaning?"

"Because we believe that womanhood is a birthright," the narrator concludes.

What else?
In a statement provided to Blaze Media, Egard CEO Ilan Srulovicz said, “The overwhelming majority of Americans are appalled by Big Tech, Big Business, and Big Government’s coordinated campaign to erase the hard-fought gains earned by untold millions of amazing women in our society."

"Yet, almost nobody is speaking for them," Srulovicz continued. "We crafted an ad campaign that celebrates our grandmothers, mothers, sisters, aunts, and daughters, and everything they represent to paint a stark contrast to the lies we are all being told."

Srulovicz added, "The push for transgender rights is no longer about equality, it’s now a cleverly-crafted lie that comes at the expense of women. We ask all Americans to join us to speak truth.”

This is a VERY powerful advert

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dementedma · 13/04/2022 15:08

Well done them

Pluvia · 13/04/2022 15:07

@EmbarrassingHadrosaurus, I agree with you. The moment the word 'sacred' was uttered my heart fell.

fridgepants · 13/04/2022 15:01

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ChinstrapBobblehat · 13/04/2022 14:59

👏 👏 👏

First post on this subject in a long while that hasn’t filled me with rage and despair, thank you.

StopStartStop · 13/04/2022 14:55

The ad did seem very political (anti-Biden) but I was willing to overlook that in favour of the positive message for women. I'm a single-issue woman, if they're standing with women I'll stand with them.

MsFogi · 13/04/2022 14:44

Bloody brilliant. Just had a look at their watches and will definitely be requesting one for my next birthday. We need to share the hell out of this ad on social media and email the company to tell them we think it is brilliant (I have done so).

MoonbeamSprinkles · 13/04/2022 14:39

There will always be a justification to disdain GC people

But this isn’t a GC advert and they aren’t a GC company.
This is a religious right company who just happen to agree that you can’t change sex.

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day and all that, and I’m sure they’d also agree that the sky was blue.

Buuuuuut they are not on the gender critical feminist side.
They are the other side of the coin.

I get that we’re in a place where even crumbs feel good.
But I would imagine that they aren’t fighting for people to be free to wear and dress how they please.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 13/04/2022 14:33

I’m ready to be piled on here but I actually think this advert is a gift for those who say the GC movement is in bed with the Christian Right.

tbh, iirc, for those who are convinced of this, any interpretation is sufficient evidence and it works equally for those who consider GC to be Marxists. There will always be a justification to disdain GC people.

The company's rhetoric, imagery (the visual references and historical references laid out by a PP), and jewellery are not my cup of tea but I don't expect there to be a Borg consciousness on any of these issues.

SquirrelFan · 13/04/2022 14:29

@MoonbeamSprinkles I agree wholeheartedly

AlisonDonut · 13/04/2022 14:29

@LookMoreCloselier

Here we go again, last week fawning over bawjaws boris and now buying this jewellery. Confused
I'm not a fan of any jewellery, nor Boris, but isn't that what advertising actually is? Buy our products because (whatever)? All companies that advertise are just interested in selling product...and people decide on what to buy using this and any other number of pieces of info to decide what to buy?

I mean it isn't rocket science...but it is advertising.

MoonbeamSprinkles · 13/04/2022 14:24

I’m ready to be piled on here but I actually think this advert is a gift for those who say the GC movement is in bed with the Christian Right.

All this ‘is woman a care giver’ ‘sacred womanhood’ rhetoric doesn’t sound very gender critical at all.
In fact it sounds very gender supportive.

I’m not a woman because I’m a mother, sister, whatever: I’m a woman because I’m of the female sex and I’m an adult - the end.

And if I was a trans activist I’d be rubbing my hands with glee at that advert, it’s every straw man in the book.

StopStartStop · 13/04/2022 14:21

Oh, I watched that. It made me cry. I need a watch...

beastlyslumber · 13/04/2022 14:19

Has twitter had a massive, ensemble Mad Angry Cry about this yet?

StopStartStop · 13/04/2022 14:16

Wow!

Misstache · 13/04/2022 14:16

I mean, for an ad in the US you choose a medal ceremony of Soviet gymnasts in like 1972 to talk about women’s success in sports and not Simone Biles or Serena who are by far the most recognizable athletes? I guess they don’t have that feminine spirit and grace. This is an ad locating itself in a nostalgic white past where white women won gymnastics and white women did the caregiving (which is in fact done largely by immigrant non- white women like Filipinas, Latinas, Black women, etc.) where women weren’t CEOs (other than the questioning of Justice Brown no professional women here) and white women stayed nicely home and gave birth. This is really quite bad under the “we support women” surface.

Nnique · 13/04/2022 14:15

All very good, and important, considerations. Of course.

I’ve not watched the ad but the text as laid out here I can certainly get behind.

Some principles transcend all political considerations and those must be upheld regardless of individual agreement/disagreement.

Material reality should not be denied. Sex matters. Womanhood is a birthright.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 13/04/2022 14:13

@SelfPortraitWithPterodactyl

Christ, I am so tired of the posters who pop up on every bloody thread to point out that just because someone (politician, company, whatever) has said something true and sensible they are not automatically paragons of virtue or allies in every other way. For fuck's sake, WE KNOW. We are not - unlike some people, apparently - naive enough to assume that someone who says one right thing is a Good Person Who Can Do No Wrong. Seriously, if you see an advert that you approve of and automatically think that business must be worth supporting for every other reason that says a lot more about you and your approach to the world - and indeed, to my mind, suggests the sort of unsophisticated black-and-white thinking that is exacerbating the culture wars. We are recognising here that merely speaking the truth on this topic is unusual, and that we want to encourage it. Does that mean said truth-speaking is necessarily altruistically motivated? Obviously not. Is speaking a self-evident truth an exceptionally low fucking bar? Yes. Does it mean the speaker is a Good Person? Again, obviously not. 🙄 What we are rewarding is the action, the much-needed, refreshing and significant action - while also deploring the need for it and regretting that people who claim to be more charitably motivated can't go one better. We're not idiots, and we're not awarding a fucking sainthood.
Thanks for pointing this out, Self.

I have to laugh at all the monitors pointing out how wrong we silly women are. A company supports us, so we support them. A company disrespects us, we stop giving them our money. We are so bad .....

Misstache · 13/04/2022 14:10

I have to agree with some here feeling uneasy. The ad is almost exclusively white women with its centrepiece being the questioning of the first black woman to be appointed to the Supreme Court, an important part of black women’s history. The release of this ad seems timed to that and seems directly to be covering the extremely racist attacks on her by Republicans with the gloss of defending (white) womanhood. Her answer was silly but this ad is doing something else here. Note we also don’t see women marching in the labour movements, black women marching for Civil Rights, Latina women organizing against borders…it’s, other than sports (where they choose white gymnasts and swimmers and not black runners, gymnasts, or any black female athletes) all about childbirth, caring for elders, “feminine spirit” or whatever that was…aren’t black women part of this sacred womanhood? Other than the one woman at the end thrown in there this is an ad promoting the sacred role of white women within family to be caregivers and nurturers and uses that to establish a women’s history that ignores black women while attacking a black woman who has been called unqualified, a pedophile, etc. by white Republicans,

I’m sorry, but this ad is signalling a particular kind of white womanhood (all gender confirming, no lesbian couples here) and using it against a black woman. This isn’t women’s solidarity. And given how often the trans movement appropriates black womanhood and uses the argument “black women aren’t considered women either,” it’s horrible to leave black women out.

IsabelaMadrigal · 13/04/2022 14:09

I do get the cynicism about advertisers motives, but ultimately it's a good message and the necklace is a nice product. Understated and classy. It's on my Christmas list now.

flyingbuttress43 · 13/04/2022 14:02

The important thing for me is that I could not imagine that advert being run a year ago. It is a sign of the tide finally turning.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 13/04/2022 13:51

I really hope that none of your children come out as transgender

What does transgender actually mean? Because it seems to include anything from teen girls with mental health issues affected by social contagion to adult male cross dressers and AGP's?

What exactly is the tenuous link you think affects these entirely distinct demographics?

What make the 'first male trans MP' trans? He isn't changing his appearance or pronouns or has dysphoria. So other than his say so it's entirely fucking meaningless.

SpeckledlyHen · 13/04/2022 13:49

Wow - what an incredibly powerful advert

MangyInseam · 13/04/2022 13:40

[quote doublemonkey]Never heard of them but they seem to make nice watches. I'm looking at the Colarado Aqua..🤔. I'm so happy they have the balls to say something.

They made this one too which is so prescient that I got goose bumps. I don't remember Ronald Reagan being this powerfull.

[/quote] There's a tendency by people who think of themselves as progressives to dismiss him as just a shallow idiot, but he could be an extremely compelling speaker. And political speechwriters have gone down hill pretty spectacularly across political lines since then. It's almost a surprise to hear that kind of clear, unambiguous statement and good writing, with sentences of more than five words.
FOJN · 13/04/2022 13:39

I really hope that none of your children come out as transgender.

Really, why? What do you think feminists are going to do to their children. You should get off the internet if you think defending women's rights is about denying transpeoples right to exist. Not one single poster here thinks that.

ChipButtyCurrySauce · 13/04/2022 13:39

That video gave me goosebumps!!

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