Jess Phillips has shown us who she is

I'm sorry but this is not right or acceptable.

I have little respect for someone who stood back whilst other women were thrown under the bus by Labour for saying the exact same thing 4 or 5 years ago.

Labour politicians have been dragged to a position where they know they sound ridiculous if they say women can have a penis. On that Times Radio link the follow up question to Jess should have been does a man who says his gender is female have access to women's single sex spaces.

Thank you for that link.

She said it on Times Radio as well.

And W = AHF
www.thetimes.co.uk/radio/show/20220413-11775/2022-04-13

From 1.29.48

She is my local MP and my biggest gripe is how little she does for the area:(

That's a very thorough article. I had thought that Jess was somewhat reasonable but that bill to make GI a PC and the attempt to eliminate the grounds for divorce are appalling.

I don’t think that article is fair. JP has done tons of work to help women and vulnerable people.

But that isn't what the article is about. It's about the fact that she's given incompatible statements in different interviews.

When asked directly she's been sympathetic, if unclear, on single sex space protection but the article cites her explicitly opposing them and working to eliminate them.

@GCAndProud yes I agree this is what I think too. She knows but doesn't want to face the difficulties of being publicly GC and will play along to keep her position

I don't have sound on my PC and the clip doesn't have subtitles. From the single line quoted above, it sounds like a start to me!

As I said, I am all for waiting, giving her, and others a chance to change their minds - for any reason. I remember only too well how I felt when the penny dropped for me. I went from defending one of my oldest friends and carrying the congitive dissonance due to 40years worth of friendship, to realising that he didn't need defending and I could say "A transwoman is a man" without anyone dying!

If Jess Philips wants to come to the table I am not going to put any obstacles in her way!

I agree it’s a start! A week ago nobody in Labour would have said that, apart form Rosie Duffield.
It’s just a shame Labour didn’t listen to Rosie and Women in general, they’ve only addressed their stupidity because journos are asking them questions and Johnson was so clear (though I do agree him!).

It's not a start if she's changing with the wind AND dropping abortion in. We've seen abortion being dropped in too often where our rights are concerned. It's a bit too much like the US, where it's dangled over women to make sure they vote in line. Then nothing changes to improve access to it anyway.

I'm very suspicious about this. We should be on alert for this kind of crap.

Labour MP Jess Phillips: "No, of course a woman can't have a penis! A trans woman may have a penis."

It's a start!

I definitely don't think that Boris "whipped MPs against abortion rights". If she's referring to the home abortions vote, then my understanding is it was redrafted in order to be legally workable. And it was a free vote.

Inconvenient facts. But facts.

twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1514293961095094281

Jeremy Kyle asks "can a woman have a penis?"

Labour MP Jess Phillips: "No, of course a woman can't have a penis! A trans woman may have a penis."

Won't stop me from corresponding though!

I think she knows deep down what’s going on and I don’t think she genuinely thinks TWAW. Sadly, the lure of fame/fortune is too strong. And she can see what’s happening to her brave colleague, Rosie Duffield, and doesn’t want that for herself.

I can't condemn her for that.

Like me and many other posters here, she believes that women need to be protected and that trans people also need to be protected. She believes that transomen ar not a threat to women.

The difference is that I have had my epiphany. I now know that my belief was naive, simplistic, essentially dahngerous to women. Jess has not.

I won't condemn her. I will, however, continue to write to her to explain why I disagree with her. Maybe something I/we write might be her lightbulb moment. That would be a better outcome than condemning her.

I agree her inner feminist tries to get out sometimes. It’s such a shame that even the most basic level of feminism (just asking for a fair deal for women) gets squashed down by everything else.

Hmph.

Ok. Not for me

I think her inner feminist tries to get out, sometimes.

Not looked at the link but I was very pleased to see that she was unequivocally clear about her support for what appeared to be the Nordic Model when questioned at the Labour Women's Conference by a 'Sex Work is Work' Young Labour type about whether she supports full decriminalisation of 'sex work'. She did not use the term 'sex work' , referenced prostituted women, abuse and trafficking and said that she could not support the pimps and punters in having their abuse of women decriminalised.
It was rather heartening to see actually. She stressed that she wasn't referring to Labour Policy on the matter and made it clear it was her own view though.

I never, ever trusted her. She is absolutely a career politician - my feeling is she was/is interested in feminism BUT her career took priority. She never forgot though; as a result spotted the likelihood that swathes of women feel the same and that few politicians do, and she exploited this.

Agree.