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even by Crispin's standards...

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SigourneyHoward · 11/04/2022 21:13

Extremely vocal intervention by CB following a jury finding his fellow Conservative Wakefield MP guilty of sexual assault....

twitter.com/CrispinBlunt/status/1513603624164859918

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tabbycatstripy · 14/04/2022 17:46

Unbelievable, isn’t it? Not a scrap of empathy for the child, or regret for his own appalling actions.

RoseslnTheHospital · 14/04/2022 17:45

I cannot believe that statement. This was a child he'd never met before, who had no interest in him, was trying to get Khan to leave him alone. It must have been terrifying to find an adult drunk man pawing at you with obvious intent, in the middle of the night in your own bedroom. The lack of insight for Khan to be able to cast himself as a victim in this scenario is astonishing.

tabbycatstripy · 14/04/2022 17:39

Khan resigned and made a statement (it’s on Twitter).

It’s a terrible miscarriage of justice that has characterised him as a predator and an outcast.

He was convicted of (to quote him) touching someone’s leg through clothes with sexual intent.

Yes, a KID. A child who was trying to go to sleep.

FGS.

Abitofalark · 13/04/2022 13:51

@ahagwearsapointybonnet

What is likely to happen with the APPG now then, will the people who resigned in protest be able to rejoin now he's stood down as chair? It would be good to get Joanna Cherry back in! And hopefully a better candidate as the new chair.
Members can rejoin if they want to. There are some rules about members who are also officers of the group, such as Chair or Deputy or Vice Chairs. For instance they would have to hold an extraordinary general meeting to elect a new Chair. And they would have to update the group's entry in the Register of APPGs which has to give details of the Chair and other officers. They would also have to update the group's own website.
ResisterRex · 13/04/2022 08:31

*Next time that Parliament and celebrities are keen on state regulation of the press, ask yourself "why?"

A free press is the cornerstone of our democracy.*

This is worth repeating. We've seen it with the use of names and pronouns that have helped (IMO) fuel an idea that female sex offending is on the rise. It does happen. But a rise can't be proved. And a muzzled press is part of a problem we now have to try to solve.

Thelnebriati · 13/04/2022 01:40

I get a sense of middle aged men unravelling.

'Malfunctioning and destroying civilisations', if you will.

ahagwearsapointybonnet · 12/04/2022 23:40

What is likely to happen with the APPG now then, will the people who resigned in protest be able to rejoin now he's stood down as chair? It would be good to get Joanna Cherry back in! And hopefully a better candidate as the new chair.

DdraigGoch · 12/04/2022 22:39

@Needmoresleep

Worth noting the back story about initial attempts to keep the trial secret, apparently to avoid reputational damage to a serving MP. According to the Mail it took the resources of a couple of newspapers to challenge this in the courts.

The importance of the right to free speech is something that has come up repeatedly through the whole sex and gender debate.

Next time that Parliament and celebrities are keen on state regulation of the press, ask yourself "why?"

A free press is the cornerstone of our democracy.

Abitofalark · 12/04/2022 19:10

@ResisterRex

That's a bit below the belt, lark. I'm sure we've all mistakenly posed as washing machine salesmen named Jim, and offered to buy Class As for men we might pay to have sex with. Right?!
Yeah, I suppose it is a bit pallid compared with the 1970s political scandal of Liberal leader Jeremy Thorpe who was tried and acquitted at the Old Bailey of conspiracy to murder, along with a carpet salesman and a fruit machine salesman. Never let it be said that Vaz's Cambridge law degree hadn't been put to good use.
chilling19 · 12/04/2022 18:35

Everyone can see who he is now.

Rightsraptor · 12/04/2022 18:34

I suspect Crispin has taken advice from his brother Oliver Blunt QC. Hence the backtrack.

Mollyollydolly · 12/04/2022 18:32

It's a shame the news agenda moves on so quickly, with the announcement of the fines he's fallen off the front pages this afternoon. Hopefully his local constituency are up for de-selecting him. He shouldn't get away with it.

Changechangychange · 12/04/2022 14:28

@Notcreativeatall

Thats awful- Is there any more detail about why he thinks its acceptable? i know he tends to think being gay is a card you can play to make anything acceptable. He's actually my mp so i may write to him.
I suspect he is aware that nobody really gives a shit when women are sexually assaulted, and is surprised that teenage boys are not seen as equally disposable.

If this had been a fifteen year old girl, it probably would not have caused much outrage (or got anywhere near a court) - she probably led him on, shouldn’t have been alone with him, “looked older”, etc.

nettie434 · 12/04/2022 14:15

Lisa Townsend has tweeted:

Thank you to everyone who has been in touch in the last 24hrs. As Surrey PCC and chair of the Surrey Criminal Justice Board I know how difficult it is to secure a conviction for sexual crimes, and share the deep concerns about recent comments that have sought to undermine 1/3

yesterday’s jury decision in a case that will have taken enormous bravery from the victim. As Surrey’s victims’ champion I want to make clear that the comments issued by a Surrey MP yesterday in no way reflect the views of my Party, or my colleagues 2/3

It is vital that victims and survivors of sexual crimes in Surrey know that my office and I will always strive to ensure they are supported and treated with respect, and that I do not consider any crime against a young person as ‘minor’. 3/3

twitter.com/_lisa_townsend/status/1513828555968364547?s=21&t=fyjuQ0ljGXj-oRBcR_ZbgQ

Well said Lisa!

ResisterRex · 12/04/2022 14:14

That's a bit below the belt, lark. I'm sure we've all mistakenly posed as washing machine salesmen named Jim, and offered to buy Class As for men we might pay to have sex with. Right?!

SwissBall · 12/04/2022 14:13

I remember Keith Vaz though I didn’t know that about the committees. I do remember he pretended to be a washing machine salesman. Why can I remember that but not my MN login?!

DomesticatedZombie · 12/04/2022 13:44

@Abitofalark

His pompous statement about justice and truth had echoes of Jonathan Aitken's 'sword of truth' speech when he tried to stop Granada broadcasting a programme about his dodgy dealings with Arab businessmen:

"If it falls to me to start a fight to cut out the cancer of bent and twisted journalism in our country with the simple sword of truth and the trusty shield of British fair play, so be it. I am ready for the fight. The fight against falsehood and those who peddle it. My fight begins today. Thank you and good afternoon."

He got time for perjury and perverting the course of justice and Granada mocked the 'sword of honour' in a programme with the title "Dagger of Deceit".

Grin
Abitofalark · 12/04/2022 13:39

Speaking of party vetting and the conduct of dodgy MPs, does anyone remember Keith Vaz? He had a long list of scandals, alleged dodgy dealings and investigations, ranging from money and corruption to sex and drugs.
Yet he was appointed to the Justice Select Committee just two months after he'd resigned from the Home Affairs Select Committee because of the lurid sex and drug scandal - a Commons motion to stop the appointment failed because enough of his fellow MPs voted against it. And shortly after that he joined a Bill Committee on a bill to do with corruption and money laundering.

Abitofalark · 12/04/2022 13:25

His pompous statement about justice and truth had echoes of Jonathan Aitken's 'sword of truth' speech when he tried to stop Granada broadcasting a programme about his dodgy dealings with Arab businessmen:

"If it falls to me to start a fight to cut out the cancer of bent and twisted journalism in our country with the simple sword of truth and the trusty shield of British fair play, so be it. I am ready for the fight. The fight against falsehood and those who peddle it. My fight begins today. Thank you and good afternoon."

He got time for perjury and perverting the course of justice and Granada mocked the 'sword of honour' in a programme with the title "Dagger of Deceit".

LK1972 · 12/04/2022 11:15

As in not 'haha' it's funny he thinks that, is that 'the truth is getting through even on Wiki, where the editors seem rather captured, at least in regards to women' rights'. But I guess if anyone involved was a woman CB would cry transphobia and probably wouldn't have had to apologise.

LK1972 · 12/04/2022 11:09

Haha, quick work by someone has this last paragraph in 'Early life and career' section of his Wikipedia page:
"Blunt thinks it is wrong that a Court of Law can find a fellow MP guilty of a sexual offence act and therefore believes that all victims of sexual offences are fair game."

It probably won't last, but kudos for getting it inSmile

zanahoria · 12/04/2022 11:09

There seems to a common theme among gay male Tory MPs, they do not ever do anything for for gay rights until there is an opportunity to pink wash their reputations.

NecessaryScene · 12/04/2022 10:33

When their sexuality/gender identity is so valorised it makes them feel superior and immune to normal discourse and boundaries. The progressive way to unravel.

Aye, the "high-status oppressed minority" has a magnetic appeal to a certain personality type.

A gay man has an easy in to this modern LGBTQ+ one (although they have to be increasingly careful about being openly homosexual), but anyone can join in.