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Do you boycott local shops that don't support biology?

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CervixSampler · 10/04/2022 16:55

Specifically selling period products for people who menstruate? Recommending mooncups for people who have given birth etc.
They've been called out on it and I'm really peeved as they were a great independent shop with lots of vegan items and items by weight, natural products for body, hair and home. Expensive but I supported them as they are local, friendly and ethical. Now their ethics don't align with mine. It seems like nothing is free of identify politics anymore.

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UsernameNotAvailableHmm · 12/04/2022 15:01

I am boycotting several nationwide stores (online too) for not supporting biology
Haven't yet found any problems with local independent stores or places
Now I know where to get my stickers from, Standingforwomen.com, I shall make good use of them, where needed, wherever my travels take me

Babdoc · 12/04/2022 14:39

I have boycotted my local rep theatre ever since they made the women’s toilets mixed sex.
I now attend plays and concerts in my next nearest town instead, where there is none of this pandering to male rights activists.

Hailingfrequenciesopen · 12/04/2022 13:03

[quote oldwomanwhoruns]@Hailingfrequenciesopen Standing For Women do good stickers.
Standingforwomen.com
That's where mine come from Smile[/quote]
Thank you!

VelvetChairGirl · 12/04/2022 10:31

@Rights

Don’t worry *@CervixSampler* - many of them will soon be feeling like the idiots they are now that the tide finally seems to be turning. I think the majority of keyboard warriors are brainwashed teens looking for an outlet for their angst. In a few years’ time when they need to start working, paying bills, etc, most of them will grow out of it.

I started boycotting Lush when they started promoting breast binders to teenage girls… I also won’t buy period pants etc from companies who refuse to use the word “woman”.

Like @ZaraSizeMedium I’m also not averse to stickering…

if your on facebook you can click on the profiles, the TRAs are global, there was a recent BBC report on their facebook for example about the EHRC clarification about the law and one particular TRA was getting very upset about it, he was an American living in Japan according to his profile, the majority of GC replies were British presumably because its british news about british law. but TRAs moaning on it from Australia, canada etc. it really does make it look like theres more of them then their actually are.

I have a theory about that, the effects of social media, how we dont tend to comprehend the fact its global and not local, how that affects perceptions in the real world. how many of these companies pushing inclusion of pronouns etc actually even have any employees that are demanding it? not many I think, and if we didnt have this big social media push warping perceptions into thinking theres a massive angry mob out there just waiting to pounce, how many would actually hold those few employees demands as being more important then the majority view? not many I think as that would be unfair and not equality.

VelvetChairGirl · 12/04/2022 10:16

@Artichokeleaves

Yup.

Also now won't go into M&S without a hazmat suit.

I buy their food, and I get my sons school uniform in there because the local council keep giving me hardship vouchers, you have to pick from a selection of shops and they send you a evoucher, I always go with M&S or John Lewis and save them up for kids clothing, order online for delivery instore, but I wont buy any clothing for myself in there with or without vouchers, I am not setting foot in the changing room, I dont even want to touch any of it tbh no idea what someones been doing with it in the changing room.
VelvetChairGirl · 12/04/2022 10:10

I will boycott any company big or small as much as possible.

I notice Lush is always empty, good good.

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CervixSampler · 12/04/2022 10:08

I was also called a misogynist, disingenuous,and of gaslighting myself and my view being akin to the homophobia of the 80s. The DARVO going on was something else. It was quite the eye-opener.

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CervixSampler · 12/04/2022 10:05

It quickly descended into a massive TRA pile on. I hadn't even mentioned trans or non-binary and I was called a terf, a nazi, narrow-minded. I was told sex isn't binary,and many of the things I've read on this forum from those who say twaw.

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oldwomanwhoruns · 12/04/2022 09:25

@Hailingfrequenciesopen Standing For Women do good stickers.
Standingforwomen.com
That's where mine come from Smile

NotTerfNorCis · 12/04/2022 08:45

Sorry, double post.

I suppose what I'm saying is, we seem to be denying biological sex - breaking it down into its components like menstruation, childbirth etc and ignoring the whole - while raising up 'gender ', which can only mean reinforcing cultural stereotypes about how women and men should behave. It seems regressive and anti-feminist.

DomesticatedZombie · 12/04/2022 08:41

I wouldn't say 'boycott ' but I don't spend money in places that are anti women.

NotTerfNorCis · 12/04/2022 08:36

naming something for 'people who menstruate'

Shouldn't people with this body type have a collective name though? I mean, the fact of being female is far more significant than something like eye colour, even if you don't want it to be.

NippyWoowoo · 12/04/2022 07:53

@CervixSampler

Specifically selling period products for people who menstruate? Recommending mooncups for people who have given birth etc. They've been called out on it and I'm really peeved as they were a great independent shop with lots of vegan items and items by weight, natural products for body, hair and home. Expensive but I supported them as they are local, friendly and ethical. Now their ethics don't align with mine. It seems like nothing is free of identify politics anymore.
I can see you not supporting it as it doesn't align with your ethics, but naming something for 'people who menstruate' - isn't that supporting biology? As it's trans men (aka bio females) who are included in that; it's not like they're marketing period products at trans women
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Hailingfrequenciesopen · 12/04/2022 00:45

@ZaraSizeMedium

Yes if I possibly can.

Not a local shop but there’s a local restaurant I’d boycott, but DH’s family love it and lots of family birthdays and events are booked by them for there.

I sticker the hell out of it while I’m there instead.

I'm a newly enraged 'real' women at this bullshit. I'm ashamed to say I don't know these stickers. Where can I get some?
Stealhsquirrelnutkin · 12/04/2022 00:06

They have changing rooms for Senoras in Spain. What do they call the changing rooms in the U.K.?

They label them women's and men's changing rooms but have a policy that anyone can use the changing rooms of the "gender" they feel comfortable with. So your granny might be stuff on in a curtained alcove adjacent to a bloke experiencing "euphoria" all over a pair of M&S knickers and the floor.

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CervixSampler · 11/04/2022 23:17

What's BDS?

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ChristinaXYZ · 11/04/2022 23:01

@Fairislefandango

I would do, yes. I haven't noticed any local shops do this though. I've boycotted Lush Angry for quite a while now.
We have a few local shops that might sell sanitary products. We have a long established health food shop that caters for people who want things that you cannot get at the usual supermarkets. We also have a ethical shop which translates as every political fad going - vegan, BDS, all kinds of identity politics. Everyone used the old health food shop regardless of their politics. This new shop is taking trade from the old one amongst younger people with its trendy shop front and trendy politics. I just hope the older one survives. I know the other one won't because the trends will move on.

I'll boycott any shop that pushes its politics on me or disregards women.

Mrsherdwick · 11/04/2022 15:55

I visited the m&s in Marbella last week just for research. I don’t buy in m&s U.K. because of the changing rooms fiasco. They have changing rooms for Senoras in Spain. What do they call the changing rooms in the U.K.?

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CervixSampler · 10/04/2022 21:58

You are making me feel so much better, thank you. I'm not adverse to stickering and ribboning. I'm very happy that my ribbons are still where I put them last summer at one of our holiday haunts.

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Childrenofthestones · 10/04/2022 21:30

@CervixSampler

Oooh I've been called a t**f!! And a nazi.
Wear it like a badge of honour CS.👍
Rights · 10/04/2022 20:38

Don’t worry @CervixSampler - many of them will soon be feeling like the idiots they are now that the tide finally seems to be turning. I think the majority of keyboard warriors are brainwashed teens looking for an outlet for their angst. In a few years’ time when they need to start working, paying bills, etc, most of them will grow out of it.

I started boycotting Lush when they started promoting breast binders to teenage girls… I also won’t buy period pants etc from companies who refuse to use the word “woman”.

Like @ZaraSizeMedium I’m also not averse to stickering…

HandShoe · 10/04/2022 18:22

Yes. There’s plenty of choice out there so I avoid companies that decide to throw women under the bus. That includes Lush amongst others (saved a fortune) and a new cafe near me that I discovered after I had a full bladder only has mixed-sex toilets - communal sinks etc rather that just being somewhere too small to have more than one single toilet&sink arrangement.

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CervixSampler · 10/04/2022 18:12

Oooh I've been called a t**f!! And a nazi.

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CervixSampler · 10/04/2022 17:45

This was my first out and out GC interaction on Facebook over this and it's so sad that it's women laying into me for stating biology. I didn't even mentions trans people and they were all over me with their rudeness. I'm autistic so I should have stopped myself as I'll be upset about this for ages now but the local shop can sod off with their exclusionary language.

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