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QuetzalTerfLus · 2022-04-09T21:55:25+00:00

[[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10703327/Women-strip-searched-trans-officers-born-male-say-police.html]] Unbelievable! (and yet sadly not surprising)

SpinningTheSeedsOfLove · 10/04/2022 07:31

I wonder how many Police and Crime Commissioners were even aware of this happening? Fuck’s sake.

It’ll be interesting to see if any of them, like Lisa Townsend in Surrey, condemn it.

I think I might write to the Policing Minister today. It’s bloody appalling.

ComplaintsComplaintsComplaints · 10/04/2022 07:20

@334bu

So not just females in custody being sexually abused but female officers possibly being forced to strip search males. In any other setting both of these situations would be criminal offences. It would also be interesting to see whether the Equality Impact Assessment done before this policy was formulated, even considered the impact on women in custody and or the female staff being forced to search male prisoners.

I don't know if there was any official guidance in place beforehand but this has happened to me, quite a long while ago (late 00s). I was made to strip search a violent, verbally abusive, very heavily built and fully intact 6foot plus 'woman' and the experience was utterly degrading - and believe me the subject of the search wanted it to be that way. I can only imagine how awful it would be were the roles reversed. Strip searching isn't (usually) done lightly.

NotJustACigar · 10/04/2022 07:07

Pixiedust1234

"Never thought I would say this but thank fuck for the daily mail at the moment"

Agreed. I had always hated the Mail and been a Guardian reader until now. It's so confusing!

SallyLockheart · 10/04/2022 07:03

@Pixiedust1234

Never thought I would say this but thank fuck for the daily mail at the moment

Ditto. The whole topic in its absurdities and contempt of women is in their sights. For the DM it’s probably good business but clearly they have both journalists actively researching these stories and they are empowering women and those who support womens rights to be published in a high profile media outlet

334bu · 10/04/2022 07:02

I don't know what the policy is in Scotland but as male sex offenders have been incarcerated in female prisons, I should imagine that any public Duty Equality review just ignored the rights of the female officers and prisoners.

tabbycatstripy · 10/04/2022 06:53

Awful. Needs to be withdrawn. What’s the harm in just saying, “Okay, we’ll get you a female officer?”

Hoardasurass · 10/04/2022 02:27

Wtf have I lost read

HeirloomTomato · 10/04/2022 00:32

What about objections - very valid ones - from religious communities? What if a Muslim or orthodox Jewish woman refuses to be searched by someone who is evidently born male, despite their self-declared gender identity?

I'm old enough to remember when the media focus was on how to train and educate police on how to sensitively handle the beliefs of Muslims or other religious minorities when interacting with the community. We now have done a complete 180 change in policy to ignore sensitivities of everyone else and focus only on making trans police officers feel comfortable. It's amazing the TRA lobby gained so much influence in a few short years.

nocoolnamesleft · 10/04/2022 00:19

@EwwSprouts

And then you think about Child Q.

True. The only thing that could have made that appalling racially motivated assault of a minor even worse would have been if it had perpetrated by a male.

EwwSprouts · 10/04/2022 00:16

And then you think about Child Q.

334bu · 10/04/2022 00:14

So not just females in custody being sexually abused but female officers possibly being forced to strip search males. In any other setting both of these situations would be criminal offences. It would also be interesting to see whether the Equality Impact Assessment done before this policy was formulated, even considered the impact on women in custody and or the female staff being forced to search male prisoners.

nocoolnamesleft · 10/04/2022 00:06

Just found this story and came here to see if there was a thread. Appalling. There is absolutely no consideration being paid to the woman's safety and dignity. Coerced consent is not consent.

yourhairiswinterfire · 10/04/2022 00:03

''Women, shut up and be violated by a male police officer or we'll record you thinking you have a right to say 'no' to a member of the opposite sex as a hate crime.''

Fuckers. Consent under duress is not consent. Women are NOT fucking props here to validate others.

MoS - police strip search guidance “quietly brought in” last December

IcakethereforeIam · 09/04/2022 23:58

@NitroNine wonder which prison Zoe is in, will female prison officers have to search Zoe?

Monitaurus · 09/04/2022 23:55

We knew this would happen and we warned about it. But no one cares for actual women or girls. The police must pu5 their house in order.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 09/04/2022 23:51

Yet another policy brought in on the sly. Nothing to see here.

Male feelings must be pandered to at all times.

IcakethereforeIam · 09/04/2022 23:43

I've been wondering about this for a while. I'm not on twitter but I had a look at the CoP's twitter-thing, they've got a pinned tweet about gathering info. on VAWG being coordinated by DCC Maggie Blyth, @Maggie_Blyth Deputy Chief Constable National Policing response to Violence Against Women and Girls. Perhaps those of you on twitter could contact her? I'm going to try to find an email.

NitroNine · 09/04/2022 23:37

(Sorry, more concerned about that than your one who appears in whichever Service’s promotional materials breaking uniform regulations etc.)

Pixiedust1234 · 09/04/2022 23:36

Never thought I would say this but thank fuck for the daily mail at the moment

NitroNine · 09/04/2022 23:35

I’m more concerned about how many more people like this there are working for the police. The ones with enough nous not to put videos online that will get your door knocked [in], I mean.

DomesticatedZombie · 09/04/2022 23:33

jfc

Luckily no male predators are likely to join the police purely to take advantage of a policy that says they are able to strip search females if they mouth some magic words.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 09/04/2022 23:22

Creepy as fuck. So all the police chiefs (as this is from the National Police Chiefs Council) think it's OK for a born male to strip search a woman if he claims to be one?
No wonder there are so many scandals involving sexual abuse .rape and assault of women by police officers. Their leaders are modelling it for them.

FOJN · 09/04/2022 23:13

But if 'the refusal is based on discriminatory views' it could be 'recorded as a non-hate crime incident'

Submit or be punished. Absolute fuckers.

Flipflopssndsocks · 09/04/2022 23:06

This image should be enough to end the current policy immediately.

ilovebencooper · 09/04/2022 23:04

This is horrifying and must be revoked.