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Will India Willoughby need to delete this post?

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tabbycatstripy · 08/04/2022 18:27

“Baroness Nicholson is an evil woman. Made a flurry of FOI’s to the NHS looking for cases where trans had attacked - or been complained about - by other women. Found none. So she simply made one up. Unforgivable. Reported by a blood-thirsty press.”

That’s a serious allegation.

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RoaringtoLangClegintheDark · 23/04/2022 23:58

Twitterwhooooo · 08/04/2022 20:30

Individuals like India and Monty who have had a lot of control over the narratives until now are losing it as they repeatedly come up against reality, and their arguments break down under the slightest criticism.

Bring it on, I say.

Yes indeed

Appledrop · 23/04/2022 21:23

Apologies for bad link....here's another www.tiktok.com/search?q=emwozya&t=1650742902013

Appledrop · 23/04/2022 21:21

Has anyone come across an Emily Wozya? They have been sprouting a lot nasty crap on tiktok and someone has screen shot a lot of there posts. .......www.tiktok.com/?feed_mode=v2&is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1&q=emwozya&t=1650742902013

Will India Willoughby need to delete this post?
Butfirstcoffees · 09/04/2022 22:10

@TheFnozwhowasmirage

And just like that,the tweet has vanished.
Would love to know the exact reason IW deleted it.
TheFnozwhowasmirage · 09/04/2022 21:24

And just like that,the tweet has vanished.

WeeBisom · 09/04/2022 15:56

If it went to court India can defend a claim of defamation by proving their statement is true. So India would have to prove that it was more likely than not that the baroness had made up the story. I imagine this would be quite difficult.

WallaceinAnderland · 09/04/2022 15:37

Peeing in full view of everyone? Isn't that what the, erm, men do at urinals. Carry on India, if you feel more comfortable peeing like a man, go for it.

LK1972 · 09/04/2022 15:18

Did I miss the history lesson on Suffragettes where they 'peeing/stripping off in full view of everyone' to get us the vote? Thanks IW, my brain is now making that film Grin

GAHgamel · 09/04/2022 15:17

I am not a lawyer, so I may be wrong, but I was under the impression that in England and Wales you had to prove that what you were saying was true to defend a libel action, not that that the person suing you had to prove you were lying?

Absurdle · 09/04/2022 12:52

Suppose it went to court. (IW seems to harbour fantasies of self-martyrdom for the cause, so maybe it’s conceivable.)

Would the Baroness be able to prove it untrue without publicly revealing information that needs to be kept private? Could relevant evidence be kept confidential?

Or maybe she could just wait till things are public and then sue the ? How does it work?

*I know she doesn’t like swearing, hence asterisks.

GCAcademic · 09/04/2022 10:14

Men often claim that women lie about rape.

tabbycatstripy · 09/04/2022 10:11

Imagine thinking the best way to make your point is indecent exposure.

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ScreamingMeMe · 09/04/2022 10:10

@SheldonesqueTheBstard

Did they pick that pearl out of a catalogue as well?

I do believe they have mixed up suffragette with insufferable…

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SheldonesqueTheBstard · 09/04/2022 10:07

Did they pick that pearl out of a catalogue as well?

I do believe they have mixed up suffragette with insufferable…

ScreamingMeMe · 09/04/2022 09:56

[quote EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn]Does everyone know where Willoughby got the horse idea from? Suffragette Emily Wilding Davison threw herself under the King’s horse at a race on Derby Day in 1913.

www.museumoflondon.org.uk/discover/malignant-suffragette-remembering-emily-wilding-davison[/quote]
Oh India is a suffragette according to India.

Will India Willoughby need to delete this post?
RoyalCorgi · 09/04/2022 09:33

@BridgeofStock

Can someone clarify the Baronesses here? Nicholson and/or Norman? Or am I not up to speed?
Apologies - it's Nicholson. I don't know why I kept calling her Norman, except it's been a long week.

I really really hope she finds herself an expensive lawyer to send Willoughby a warning letter. She doesn't actually need to sue, just threaten to sue, because Willoughby's tweet is so obviously libellous - there is no grey area, no room for saying "I meant something different". It's absolutely stark. That should result in an apology - as happened when that TRA had to apologise for lying that JKR ignored child abuse images.

WelcomeMarch · 09/04/2022 09:30

Ok, thanks.

NecessaryScene · 09/04/2022 09:29

Is that definite, Athena? I haven’t been able to find her tweet where she said she was mistaken, so I also haven’t seen any follow up.

Most recent comments I'm aware of from Gilly are in this article here, which covers the whole saga.

UK: Women Recount Staff Denying there were Men in Single-Sex Hospital Spaces

“The more I’ve become involved in and aware of this issue, I am incredibly skeptical of my own judgment being ‘confirmed’ as incorrect,” she tweeted on March 19.

“I also started to doubt whether or not the hospital had been truthful because I’d been made aware of the NHS Pledge and a clause known as Annex B. I’d heard how they were covering up and protecting trans rights over women’s and the woman’s rape was the final straw which led me to open up again.”

WelcomeMarch · 09/04/2022 09:20

Is that definite, Athena? I haven’t been able to find her tweet where she said she was mistaken, so I also haven’t seen any follow up.

EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 09/04/2022 02:35

Does everyone know where Willoughby got the horse idea from? Suffragette Emily Wilding Davison threw herself under the King’s horse at a race on Derby Day in 1913.

www.museumoflondon.org.uk/discover/malignant-suffragette-remembering-emily-wilding-davison

twilightcustard · 09/04/2022 01:57

@tabbycatstripy India also joked (I think and hope it was a joke) about throwing themselves under a horse at the Grand National in protest

Because the horse and his/her rights don’t matter a shit either. Just a tool for Willoughby’s more important entitled existence.

BridgeofStock · 08/04/2022 22:59

Can someone clarify the Baronesses here?
Nicholson and/or Norman? Or am I not up to speed?

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 08/04/2022 21:52

Someone needs some quiet time to think about their actions….

And I hope the Baroness takes legal action.

Artichokeleaves · 08/04/2022 21:37

Its an interesting mindset. The first and immediate concern seems always not that a woman appears to have been hurt, but that it is obviously a maliciously manufactured attempt to harm the tweeter.

AthenaWhite · 08/04/2022 21:32

@WelcomeMarch

I think at least two things may have been conflated here. One was an appeal for the Baroness’s help from a distressed woman who thought someone in her ward was male but turned out to be mistaken. The other is a rape that now, as I understand it, has CCTV evidence of some sort.
She wasn't mistaken, another woman who has been lied to.
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