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Boycott, and I can't stress this enough ....

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MarieIVanArkleStinks · 08/04/2022 17:04

This GC book!, says a TRA, tagging the Oxford University Press, that bastion of critical thinking that is, you know, doing the job that an academic press should be doing.

twitter.com/jthomastremblay/status/1512212885627236352

Que a plethora of replies, memes of book-burning etc. The best responses are those saying they hadn't seen the book but thanks for the free advertising, and posting THANKS FOR YOUR ORDER screenshots from the OUP.

Fantastic own goal, but to see these overwhelmingly pro-GC, hell, even pro-free speech responses even on captured Twitter is quite a turnaround. Perhaps after all Emily Bridges, Lia Thompson and Kier Starmer have shone more sunlight on this than even they anticipated!

In the meantime I'm watching the replies roll out with popcorn in hand. Truly top-notch entertainment!

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Tiphaine · 18/05/2022 13:37

Thanks for the link Flowers Really interesting!

FemaleAndLearning · 18/05/2022 11:45

Thanks for the free download link.

myelephant · 17/05/2022 14:13

Holly L-S has contributed to this book, published last week, which is free to download from the UCL website www.uclpress.co.uk/collections/ro_homepage_products/products/186670 (It's chapter 4 - a discussion about gender, between Holly and another philosopher, Michael Hauskeller).

FemaleAndLearning · 14/05/2022 00:07

Thanks for the article very interesting. I didn't realise some states in Australia had self ID.

Tiphaine · 13/05/2022 22:10

Mine came earlier in the week, very much looking forward to starting it tomorrow. Thanks for posting OUP's response to the protesters. They got the tone just right I think. There's an interview by Joan Smith of Holly Lawford-Smith about it in the Telegraph web.archive.org/web/20220513164704/www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/trans-lobby-tried-cancel-book-dont-want-people-asking-questions/

jumpedintwice · 13/05/2022 10:47

I got my copy of Holly's book yesterday, having heard of it because of the 'boycott'. Coincidentally I met a GC friend for lunch yesterday and she'd also got a copy, so I hope OUP and Holly have done well from all the free publicity on social media.

Also congrats to OUP for a very measured, sensible response, and for setting the bar for other organisations who are targeted by similar campaigns, and showing that it's possible to respond with integrity and professionalism.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 13/05/2022 10:26

No, apologies are due from me as you're right. I was thinking of Jake and Hannah Graf.

MagicMix · 13/05/2022 10:20

Sorry for off topic :/

MagicMix · 13/05/2022 10:19

Yes, I know they do. But I think you might have mixed them up with some other people because I have never seen any indication that they have a child, through surrogacy or otherwise. And at the risk of being outing, we have mutual friends and acquaintances and I know that the anti-surrogacy laws are generally well supported in Iceland, so that's why I was surprised that I had never heard anything about it. If you have a link, though, I'd be interested to see it.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 13/05/2022 06:04

MagicMix · 12/05/2022 17:45

Is this really true? Surrogacy is illegal where Ugla/Owl is from and I would find it very interesting to learn that Ugla/Owl was circumventing that through links to the UK (or other countries?).

They live in the UK, I believe.

FemaleAndLearning · 12/05/2022 23:25

Oxford University Press have responded to boycott.

Boycott, and I can't stress this enough ....
Boycott, and I can't stress this enough ....
donquixotedelamancha · 12/05/2022 18:05

That is truly hilarious. All he needs is some nice alliteration and has language would be just like that of Alan Moore's 'V'.

Nah. V's verbosity may be vexing but it has verisimilitude, unlike the vainglorious twaddle I vouchsafed in that post.

MagicMix · 12/05/2022 17:45

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 18/04/2022 06:44

No, Ugla is Owl, Fox's partner. They are the couple who 'used' a surrogate to have a child just around the start of lockdown. Made an informational video for Stonewall recently about the importance of thinking about your fertility options before seeking medical treatment as part of transition.

Is this really true? Surrogacy is illegal where Ugla/Owl is from and I would find it very interesting to learn that Ugla/Owl was circumventing that through links to the UK (or other countries?).

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 12/05/2022 12:57

donquixotedelamancha · 12/05/2022 10:09

@Andante57 There’s a website called Art Bollocks which specialises in this and comes up with suggestions for text for artists

OMG, that's too good.

My work explores the relationship between Bauhausian sensibilities and football chants. With influences as diverse as Munch and L Ron Hubbard, new synergies are created from both mundane and transcendant meanings.
Ever since I was a teenager I have been fascinated by the essential unreality of meaning. What starts out as yearning soon becomes finessed into a carnival of defeat, leaving only a sense of dread and the dawn of a new beginning.
As shifting derivatives become frozen through frantic and critical practice, the viewer is left with a testament to the inaccuracies of our era.

Looks like it's done by the same software that produces that Owen Jones 'journalist' bot.

That is truly hilarious.

All he needs is some nice alliteration and has language would be just like that of Alan Moore's 'V'.

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AngelinaFibres · 12/05/2022 10:56

VaginaRegina · 09/04/2022 09:46

This is Mx Tremblay's own magnum opus. I have a degree in English from Cambridge and I can confidently assert that it is utter bollocks.

What a beautiful word salad.

hedgehogger1 · 12/05/2022 10:18

I like this

Boycott, and I can't stress this enough ....
hedgehogger1 · 12/05/2022 10:16

The replies are not going his way are they?

donquixotedelamancha · 12/05/2022 10:09

@Andante57 There’s a website called Art Bollocks which specialises in this and comes up with suggestions for text for artists

OMG, that's too good.

My work explores the relationship between Bauhausian sensibilities and football chants. With influences as diverse as Munch and L Ron Hubbard, new synergies are created from both mundane and transcendant meanings.
Ever since I was a teenager I have been fascinated by the essential unreality of meaning. What starts out as yearning soon becomes finessed into a carnival of defeat, leaving only a sense of dread and the dawn of a new beginning.
As shifting derivatives become frozen through frantic and critical practice, the viewer is left with a testament to the inaccuracies of our era.

Looks like it's done by the same software that produces that Owen Jones 'journalist' bot.

NotAGirl · 12/05/2022 10:00

My copy has arrived, I need to finish my current book before starting.

The boycott didn’t really work this time, I’d love to know the actual sales figures vs predicted sales

RoyalCorgi · 12/05/2022 09:52

My copy's arrived today. Very much looking forward to reading it. Both the Helen Joyce and Kathleen Stock books have sold well, so hopefully this one will as well. Publishers might wake up and realise that there's a market out there for books on this topic. If they've got any sense at all, they will have spotted that the reading public is overwhelmingly female and middle-aged, and therefore exactly the demographic most likely to buy this kind of book. Whereas the angry young males organising boycotts don't tend to buy books anyway.

TheSandgroper · 12/05/2022 09:47

Glimmer and Holly chatting overnight. Holly is in Scotland doing something re the book, she says towards the end. m.youtube.com/watch?v=YHxiOQzN7vc

FemaleAndLearning · 12/05/2022 09:43

My copy has arrived. Looking forward to reading it.

CervixSampler · 12/05/2022 09:31

My copy is arriving on Tuesday 😃 perfect timing as I'll have finished JKR's latest Strike book by then.

missfliss · 18/04/2022 07:02

Also have worked on publishing and yes, all that ^^ 100%

Crcohetmonster · 18/04/2022 06:48

Sorry, my bad. I’ve just googled more So basically a weirdo straight couple and a bloke who churns out rubbish books. Bet the publishers were gutted.