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Guardian gunning for JKR again

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Theeyeballsinthefuckingsky · 08/04/2022 09:03

www.theguardian.com/film/2022/apr/08/fantastic-beasts-and-where-to-cancel-them-how-the-wizarding-world-lost-its-magic

The phone line between Stonewall & the guardian must be red hot at the moment. After yesterdays patronising “dining across the divide”
‘And so gentle reader I met a TW and they were nice and I learned the error of my ways and was so grateful to be educated. Thank you Guardian, give TW all the things’ piece yesterday plus Zoe Williams “be kind you bigots I’ve never needed a single sex space myself” article, today we have “jkr has upset the kids and now no one cares about Harry Potter anymore”

Can’t wait to see what they come up with tomorrow!

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PronounssheRa · 08/04/2022 11:18

@IvyTwines

Sarah Ditum's just commented, "So according to the Guardian here: "wife-beating" and choking women in public are "small beer" compared to JK Rowling writing accurately about the law, biology and her own victimisation....It's often very obvious in these pieces that women speaking is more egregious than male violence, but nice for someone to say it directly. And for the record, despite this piece's thesis: the Potter franchise is still making mad bank. Twitter is not the world"
Women's words, especially if they are about women's rights are a far greater crime than men's violence against women.

To be honest I thought that was the standard guardian editorial position now.

lockhillie · 08/04/2022 11:18

It's "cool" to be seen hating on JKR at the moment, but I'm sure all the people who are doing so will be visiting the cinema this week and the ticket receipts will reflect that!

RoyalCorgi · 08/04/2022 11:17

There's something quite comical about the way they try and separate the author from her work. In the past few years, we've had the Cormoran Strike series of books - and three tv adaptations. We've also had the massively successful play Harry Potter and the Cursed Child, which opened in the West End in 2016, and in Broadway in 2018, and is still running in both places. We've had The Christmas Pig, which was a best-seller, and also The Ickabog (ditto). We've had the Fantastic Beasts film franchise, which continues to draw in audiences. All of these several years after the last Harry Potter book was published.

It must infuriate them that she keeps writing, keeps publishing, and the money keeps on rolling in. They're like midges on an elephant's back - and she just swishes them away.

IvyTwines · 08/04/2022 11:08

Radio 4's review didn't mention Rowling at all, I don't think. Radio 5's did, to slag her off, though as one of the reviewers hadn't actually seen the film she was employed to review, I doubt she's the sort to have bothered to read what the author actually said before sounding off about her.

Abhannmor · 08/04/2022 11:04

@RoyalCorgi

They really are spiteful, aren't they?

If you read Andrew Billen's piece in the Times today (which is far from perfect), it's clear that the controversy hasn't hit JKR's sales at all. Her books are still selling extremely well and brought in £12.7m last year.

The Times's film reviewer gives the new Fantastic Beasts film an excellent review and says it's much better than the earlier two.

So this piece is born out of pure nastiness - the same nastiness that saw them drop JKR from their birthdays list. She's worth a million of them.

I said Rosie Duffield was worth 8000 of Owen Jones and he blocked me! JK is certainly worth 1m Guardian hacks. With honorable exceptions.
BunnyBerries · 08/04/2022 10:53

Haha, what a mess of a contradictory, spiteful, article.

It appears

"Interest in the original property shows no sign of waning"

Though apparently

"She has tarnished her own brand as far as huge numbers of them are concerned”

But

"They’re able to say: ‘These belong to us, not her’ and remove her from the picture, which is, I think, a healthy attitude"

Maybe not because

"Now we don’t use Rowling’s name or work in the classroom."

Or perhaps

“Extrapolating a threadbare story from what was originally a slim encyclopaedia of outlandish creatures had resulted in something very close to a two-hour game of Pokémon Go.”

Oh the slander…. I’ve caught the first 151 Pokémon and almost reached level 40!
I’m evidently not the intended audience at all for this article Grin

Rainbowshit · 08/04/2022 10:51

Have booked our tickets for Sunday. Can't wait to see it!!

Queenoftheashes · 08/04/2022 10:51

I find Eddie Redmayne unbearable tbh but I may have to see this on general principal. I do want to know about Dumbledore’s secrets.

TitsInAbsentia · 08/04/2022 10:49

@Queenoftheashes

Funny, they usually have comments on for articles about movies. Literally this guy knows if he had them on he’d get 600 people pointing out that JKR continues to be successful, popular, books selling etc etc. What a berk.
I scrolled to see if I could comment....pah....

I'll definitely be going to see it!

timeisnotaline · 08/04/2022 10:42

We have the Harry Potter books in 2 languages and just because of Jkr I might have to also buy the set in whatever language they take up in high school.

AryaStarkWolf · 08/04/2022 10:39

Wonder if she would consider buying the rights to Father Ted - The Musical, too.

Ohhh please please please!

LittleWhingingWoman · 08/04/2022 10:38

Does the writer of the article identify as a penis?

lockhillie · 08/04/2022 10:37

Wonder if she would consider buying the rights to Father Ted - The Musical, too.

A Rowling/Linehan collaboration would be amazing and undoubtedly a massive hit.

NarcissasMumintheDoghouse · 08/04/2022 10:32

@DomesticatedZombie

It would be amusing if JK bought the Guardian.

I don't mean like bought a copy. I mean, bought the company.

Very nice idea.

Wonder if she would consider buying the rights to Father Ted - The Musical, too.

Queenoftheashes · 08/04/2022 10:29

Funny, they usually have comments on for articles about movies. Literally this guy knows if he had them on he’d get 600 people pointing out that JKR continues to be successful, popular, books selling etc etc. What a berk.

LittleWhingingWoman · 08/04/2022 10:29

They wish - I'm on my way to see it this afternoon. I'm sure it will be superb.
Fucking Guardian wankers.

Lea1437 · 08/04/2022 10:29

There's a lot of it about at the minute Hmm

www.digitalspy.com/movies/a39647366/fantastic-beasts-3-review-jk-rowling-controversy/

Manicsfan · 08/04/2022 10:27

I sat up too late last night reading the thread about M Webberley's fitness to practice medicine hearing in absolute shock and horror. Wasn't part of the hearing yesterday? Now that's news. But they are publishing articles about JK? Fuck sake. Piss poor journalism.

IvyTwines · 08/04/2022 10:23

Sarah Ditum's just commented, "So according to the Guardian here: "wife-beating" and choking women in public are "small beer" compared to JK Rowling writing accurately about the law, biology and her own victimisation....It's often very obvious in these pieces that women speaking is more egregious than male violence, but nice for someone to say it directly. And for the record, despite this piece's thesis: the Potter franchise is still making mad bank. Twitter is not the world"

AryaStarkWolf · 08/04/2022 10:10

@Roseglen84 Yes you're probably right. I honestly still can't even believe this thing is still steaming along with all the truly batshit crazy stuff properly in the public eye now, Lia Thomas, Politicians not being able to tell you what a women is etc etc

Roseglen84 · 08/04/2022 10:07

@AryaStarkWolf

I really hope that she's vindicated in the end and these people have to admit that they behaved horribly towards her. She's been so brave standing up like she has
Unfortunately, many of these people will never own up to their behaviour, they will slither off into the shadows and pretend it never happened.

I read that article this morning and wanted to throw up a bit, talk about a bunch of vindictive crap! Dripping with jealousy and loathing, it read like a bad article in a school paper!

Whoever said the Guardian is really the muggle version of The Quibbler was right Grin.

lockhillie · 08/04/2022 10:06

They HATE JKR because she has her own money and power, self-earned, and that means they cannot bring her down.

It's the same with all the ($) billionaires such as Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk, they've earnt their money through hard work and they should be respected.

Blogblogblogblog · 08/04/2022 10:03

That is really interesting that I read that article first and thought ‘spiteful’ sums it up and came back to find everyone says exactly the same word.
I wonder if Ryan will be directed to here to rub his hands in delight stirring the witches up. If so, my university children are into Harry Potter and her stance on women’s rights is in line with their own (and they even speak about it in less hushed tones with their friends now). In order to persuade your readers (even young ones) that your argument is correct Ryan, you need to try harder. Or perhaps don’t write such spiteful pieces. It’s not good journalism. It just sounds petty.

AryaStarkWolf · 08/04/2022 10:02

@DomesticatedZombie

It would be amusing if JK bought the Guardian.

I don't mean like bought a copy. I mean, bought the company.

Grin
MaChienEstUnDick · 08/04/2022 10:02

@DomesticatedZombie

It would be amusing if JK bought the Guardian.

I don't mean like bought a copy. I mean, bought the company.

Lol but OMG yes.