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Nancy tweets about "gender affirming care" for detransitioners

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ResisterRex · 07/04/2022 15:44

Nancy tweets:

https://twitter.com/NancyMM_K/status/1512064283051405325

"Really thoughtful thread on the need to expand gender affirming care, including for people who detransition"

Is the next move from the TQ+ people going to be a move into "gender affirming care" for those transitioning back? This is the thread tweeted, from someone who describes themselves thus:

detransitioned/retransitioned FtMtF virago 🗡 (any/all) 🌱 anti-essentialist feminist 🌿 bisexual tomcat 🐱

Thread
twitter.com/ShabnakA/status/1512060146943463432
"As trans visibility and access to trans care increases, more people will seek out transition for dysphoria or gender incongruence. Some will decide that transitioning wasn't for them, because their goals didn't pan out, their dysphoria wasn't mitigated, social pressure, etc.
Even if the rate of detransition stays the same, the absolute number will increase as trans people increase, too. This is not inherently negative, but what is bad is the lack of support and resources for people who ultimately decide that they need to detransition.
Ignoring or writing off the needs of detransitioners as too niche to matter not only harms us, but also trans people who would benefit from better information on transition options, navigating doubts/fears, social adjustment, and working through regrets.
I'm lucky, in a sense, that I don't regret any of my transition and am happy I did it. Not all detransitioners feel the same way. We can validate those experiences without universalizing them, or utilizing them as a prescription against transition care.
We can recognize that what is profoundly positive for some people may be very negative for others. Some people will have regrets, some will make mistakes. Some would've continued transitioning under different circumstances, some wish they'd never done so. All are okay to feel.
The tragedy isn't that people are allowed to make decisions regarding their bodies or self-expression. The true tragedy is that most of the people who seek such options do so with very little support and limited info. It's cause for an expansion of resources, not a restriction."

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IvyTwines · 07/04/2022 17:23

@bellinisurge

Nancy is running scared. She's forgotten that the internet is forever. She thinks that she can bullshit nicey nicey when people are looking at her but forgets her comments about "terfs" being no better than antisemites. All in her Dolores Umbridge voice, ironically.
Oh, just watch them delete all their old articles and social media posts, revamp their websites with shiny new colours, start talking about 'fluidity' and 'care' and 'gender journeys', add a detransitioning stripe to a new Progress 2.0 flag...
IvyTwines · 07/04/2022 17:19

Searching Twitter, it looks like this is the first time the CEO of Stonewall has ever actually Tweeted the word 'detransition''.

bellinisurge · 07/04/2022 16:54

Nancy is running scared. She's forgotten that the internet is forever. She thinks that she can bullshit nicey nicey when people are looking at her but forgets her comments about "terfs" being no better than antisemites. All in her Dolores Umbridge voice, ironically.

IvyTwines · 07/04/2022 16:51

Those screenshots were taken yesterday.

IvyTwines · 07/04/2022 16:50

Well here's the current state of play for those seeking help and advice with detransitioning from the leading LGBTQ+ organisations Stonewall, Mermaids and the Trevor Project.

Nancy tweets about "gender affirming care" for detransitioners
Nancy tweets about "gender affirming care" for detransitioners
Nancy tweets about "gender affirming care" for detransitioners
GCAcademic · 07/04/2022 16:42

@TinselAngel

Stonewalls next income stream?
It wouldn't surprise me, the greedy, opportunistic, exploitative bastards.
tabbycatstripy · 07/04/2022 16:39

But I suppose they have to move away from saying gender is innate to saying it’s fluid, and once it’s fluid they can say it’s completely reasonable for people to move from male to female to male to female, with hormonal treatments and surgeries, and no idea of what long-term cost their body will pay.

They can bring detransitioners under the Stonewall umbrella for more joyful, affirming experiences.

(If you are a person reading this who might consider trusting Stonewall with advising you on your care, that was sarcasm.)

TinselAngel · 07/04/2022 16:31

Stonewalls next income stream?

tabbycatstripy · 07/04/2022 16:29

I think they should leave them alone and let them find support from people who understand their experiences.

ResisterRex · 07/04/2022 16:27

My worry is this is viewed as a cash cow. Which will mean what you say, Artichoke. It's potentially very concerning

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Artichokeleaves · 07/04/2022 16:25

... yeah the first thing to do would be to listen to detransitioners and see what their voices and their chosen support would be.

Because in insensitive hands this could be about managing detransitioners in the least politically damaging way. Rather like trying to get women in refuges to 'reframe their trauma' and recant to get care, in case their needs, their trauma, their voices and wishes for care mess with the Grand Plan.

Forgive my cynicism; it was learned the hard way from a hell of a lot of experience of watching the ethics of this political movement in action. Empathy and non self-interested care for others is a rare, rare bird in it.