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Grace Lavery on Woman’s Hour Today (7 April)

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CaveMum · 07/04/2022 08:17

Why on earth I do not know, but the “delightful” Grace Lavery is on Woman’s Hour today.

This Grace Lavery

Grace Lavery on Woman’s Hour Today (7 April)
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IsThePopeCatholic · 07/04/2022 21:21

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WarriorN · 07/04/2022 20:36

Has anyone counted the number of penises they got in there?

DrSbaitso · 07/04/2022 20:33

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Artichokeleaves · 07/04/2022 20:15

I can't think why the Beautiful South line "I have a PHD in I told so" is stuck my head today.

I've a knighthood in I'm Not Listening....

very apt.

BoreOfWhabylon · 07/04/2022 20:14

I do so hope they have Emma Hilton on the Sports Special. She's brilliant. And coherent, unlike Grace.

AIPS · 07/04/2022 19:59

I’m just dying laughing imagining all the R4 WH listeners who tuned in expecting Hayley Cropper and got fetus penis instead. Brilliant, well done Grace that was epic peakery 😘

DrSbaitso · 07/04/2022 19:58

@MsTSwift

My heart goes out to any poor soul sat next to them at dinner party or wedding. Nightmare! “Now enough about me what do you think about me?”
Nobody ever sits next to Lavery. The ego takes up the seat on the left and the wall of verbose bullshit takes the one on the right.
Runningupthecurtains · 07/04/2022 19:58

I can't think why the Beautiful South line "I have a PHD in I told so" is stuck my head today.

"My penis, blah blah, pedantry, pedantry, pedantry, me, me, me, I'm a pervert, blah blah, I think, I think, I think, me, me, me a bit more pedantry, I hope an old lady dies" did I miss anything?

88sausagefactory88 · 07/04/2022 19:57

Where’s the Mpie to tell us that our Saviour Has Arrived

MsTSwift · 07/04/2022 19:49

My heart goes out to any poor soul sat next to them at dinner party or wedding. Nightmare! “Now enough about me what do you think about me?”

unwashedanddazed · 07/04/2022 19:41

No amount of bafflegab can clothe their emperor.

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MoonOnASpoon · 07/04/2022 19:26

Apologies if this has already been posted but WH’s tweet about the interview says “Academic, activist and author Grace Lavery transitioned in 2018. She speaks to @Emmabarnett about her memoir Please Miss – A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Penis”

It does seem like they chose a TW to interview for the sake of balance, who is the best possible illustration of the reality of gender ideology, for anyone who might not yet realise just how much penis and penis-centring it can involve.

PankhurstConnection · 07/04/2022 19:26

@PrelateChuckles

I think a lot of the deleted post would be where anyone forgot Grace's gender.
Quite a tricky thing to remember about someone who mentions their penis so frequently.
felulageller · 07/04/2022 19:13

That was such an own goal.

I was trying to imagine a casual radio listener switching through the channels in their car. If they had tuned in mid way through and heard that voice I'm sure they wouldn't think the voice was anything other than male.

Doing some vocabulary gymnastics would have lost more devotees. There were no actual points made. And I was pleasantly surprised by EB.

The more they are given airtime like this the more people will become GC.

Polyanthus2 · 07/04/2022 19:10

Thankfully Grace faltered with the ' hope the queen dies' twitter ban - made her sound like an arsey 14 year old

Polyanthus2 · 07/04/2022 19:08

I emailed WH asking what were they thinking of. Apparently there are GC feminists and GC activists who are not feminists -- err divide and conquer? I don't think so.
Look at the online reviews of her books - there are virtually none haha, no one is buying them -so I have to ask why was she on.
Then to mention Caster Semanya as an example of why the gender studies student who emailed struggled with this - ??- one intersex does not make a law- WH lost the plot I'm afraid.

CaveMum · 07/04/2022 18:57

“Teeyed” is obv Tweeted!

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CaveMum · 07/04/2022 18:56

@WarriorN

Have they had Emma Hilton on yet? I think they need her.
Several people, myself included, have teeeyed Woman’s Hour to say they need her on for this Sport Special they are planning. I saw a short time ago that she had tweeted herself offering to go on.
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Orgasmagorical · 07/04/2022 18:56

@vivariumvivariumsvivaria

"word jizz"
Indeed. I'm just listening to it now, what a boring, self indulgent arsehole. Reminds me of my ex - can speak about himself for hoooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrssssssssssss.
vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 07/04/2022 18:50

"word jizz"

StillWeRise · 07/04/2022 18:48

@Mumsnut

'Word salad' is too kind a description.

Word porridge, maybe?

hey, don't diss porridge! healthy, wholesome, nourishing locally grown and very good value !
DomesticatedZombie · 07/04/2022 18:47

It’s always awkward when someone is so determined to prove they’re the cleverest person in the room - it’s so very crass. Lavery might harbour delusions of being a Wildean figure for our times (so many jokes could be made here re: Lavery’s absurd use of photoshop) but given their book title barely qualifies as pun (but is doubtless hilarious should one be a 12 year old boy) I’m not sure how they imagine that happening.

I just tested it on a 12 year old boy. Result: 'I don't think it's that funny'.

EndaDay · 07/04/2022 18:37

I've just read a sample of this chap's book on Amazon. Deranged.

Genevieva · 07/04/2022 18:37

Never heard of Grace, but the image is clearly a bloke in drag.

I think Nagel's 1970s bat thought experiment applies here. Nagel claimed that even if humans were able to metamorphose gradually into bats, our brains would not have been wired as a bat's since birth, so we would only ever be able to have a superficial experience of the life and behaviours of a bat, never the mindset of a bat. Consequently we could never know what it feels like to actually be a bat. I think the same is true here.

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