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Boris nails it

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SpringHasSprungYay · 07/04/2022 06:31

https://twitter.com/samcoatessky/status/1511672497950838784?s=21&t=2Qr1fcEfpIELQ9AFBo5c4Q

BorisJohnson proves once and for all that he's just been pretending to be a bumbling idiot all along.

Why is the interviewer using the phrase conversion therapy FFS?!

Come on Labour catch up now please?!

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bellinisurge · 07/04/2022 07:11

Carrie Johnson is full on TWAW. This isn't her. This is Central Office telling him this is the only way we can win. And they are right.

Tonsiltrouble · 07/04/2022 07:09

I think this is Carrie talking. And I agree that it’s very disconcerting that Boris is the only person who publicly aligns with my views on this. The Tories are not exactly a friend to women or minorities and I worry this is just coming from a position of being generally bigoted. But he is right about this.

BuanoKubiamVej · 07/04/2022 07:09

@SpringHasSprungYay He's not going to say all that in a brief interview is he?!

Not all of it maybe, but he spent the vast majority of his speaking time talking about issues that have nothing to do with conversion therapy and had no place in that interview. He looked like he was trying to change the subject rather than answering the question and he certainly could have put across some of "all that" if he had stuck to the point.

bellinisurge · 07/04/2022 07:08

He doesn't have to do anything. This is a free header for him. All he has to do is Not do stuff - like introduce self-ID. Costs nothing.
If Labour get back in they can try to sort out the economy. They can reduce NI. They can cap heating costs. All that. But if they carry on with the bullshit, they won't get back in. Even against this shower of criminal incompetents.

Mumoblue · 07/04/2022 07:05

Boris is just saying whatever he thinks will get him votes- he’s not going to do anything. And I despair that it actually works on people.
I don’t have an easy answer, but the Tories aren’t it. As a woman on the breadline, I’m more concerned about eating and heating right now.

bellinisurge · 07/04/2022 07:04

Fall for what? I don't care if he doesn't believe it or that he doesn't give a shit about women and children. He said it Starmer didn't. It needed saying.
He's a prick and i will never call him Boris like he's a mate. But he is on the right side on this and Starmer has hand led to him.

TheBigDilemma · 07/04/2022 06:59

I just think that this is just another red bus.

… and people will fall for it.

SpringHasSprungYay · 07/04/2022 06:56

@BuanoKubiamVej

I don't think that counts as "nailing it" - obviously he said some very sensible things about wider trans-related issues and his point about Gillick Competence is valid but "nailing it" would require him to specifically state that some children who float the idea of being trans are not trans, their feelings of dysphoria and alienation are due to complex issues like grappling with their own homosexuality in a heteronormative and still sometimes homophobic culture; or due to some of the possible ways that autism can affect some people's self-perception; or due to a rejection of being aggressively sexualised when their body reaches puberty - and that any legislation which "bans conversion therapy" needs to be incredibly carefully worded to ensure that those children - who would eventually detransition if they went onto a transition pathway or would be one of those who tragically find that life is no less unbearable once transitioned - are given the right support, and the help they need to find out the real root of their issues and learn to live their lives as their true selves in freedom. The existing proposals would have made it incredibly difficult for parents and professionals to help those children. I am disappointed that Boris blustered about sports and women-only spaces (despote those being valod points) rather than specifically answering this issue more fully.
He's not going to say all that in a brief interview is he?! My point is that I would very much prefer to be agreeing with the Labour leader on this and not our current PM.
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BuanoKubiamVej · 07/04/2022 06:50

I don't think that counts as "nailing it" - obviously he said some very sensible things about wider trans-related issues and his point about Gillick Competence is valid but "nailing it" would require him to specifically state that some children who float the idea of being trans are not trans, their feelings of dysphoria and alienation are due to complex issues like grappling with their own homosexuality in a heteronormative and still sometimes homophobic culture; or due to some of the possible ways that autism can affect some people's self-perception; or due to a rejection of being aggressively sexualised when their body reaches puberty - and that any legislation which "bans conversion therapy" needs to be incredibly carefully worded to ensure that those children - who would eventually detransition if they went onto a transition pathway or would be one of those who tragically find that life is no less unbearable once transitioned - are given the right support, and the help they need to find out the real root of their issues and learn to live their lives as their true selves in freedom. The existing proposals would have made it incredibly difficult for parents and professionals to help those children. I am disappointed that Boris blustered about sports and women-only spaces (despote those being valod points) rather than specifically answering this issue more fully.

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