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Boris nails it

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SpringHasSprungYay · 07/04/2022 06:31

https://twitter.com/samcoatessky/status/1511672497950838784?s=21&t=2Qr1fcEfpIELQ9AFBo5c4Q

BorisJohnson proves once and for all that he's just been pretending to be a bumbling idiot all along.

Why is the interviewer using the phrase conversion therapy FFS?!

Come on Labour catch up now please?!

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SirChenjins · 07/04/2022 12:38

No, they don't need to just stop it getting worse - they need to hold their hands up, say 'we got this horribly wrong' and start to implement changes at Govt level now that reverses this appalling situation and removes the power of the TRAs. They have done none of that - none.

Floisme · 07/04/2022 12:36

Oh for goodness sake, Johnson's remarks were a tactical move. That's what politicians do. It was entry level stuff and Labour could nullify it any time they wanted with a simple statement that they have no intention of changing the current legislation. But it seems they prefer to let a serial liar with a record for incompetence make them look shifty, duplicitous and stupid. Take it up with them.

bellinisurge · 07/04/2022 12:32

Yes this happened on the Tories watch and they've opened their eyes to the electoral possibilities of stymieing Labour. Who still have their eyes closed.
They just need to stop this getting worse. That's a start and it costs nothing

bellinisurge · 07/04/2022 12:30

I'm not voting Tory. I'm also not voting Labour. The only way Labour win under our current electoral system is by getting a massive ground swell of support. They alienate enough women, they don't get sufficient electoral support. This is for them to fix.

SirChenjins · 07/04/2022 12:25

And now what?

Given that this shitshow has happened on his watch while his Govt stared pointedly at the ceiling or their shoes are we supposed to now celebrate? Words are easy (not always for Boris, granted…) but as yet I’m seeing nothing that suggests they’re translating those words into actions.

By all means vote Tory if you want, but please don’t use these backpedaling platitudes as justification.

bellinisurge · 07/04/2022 12:21

@SirSidneyRuffDiamond , cheers for the clarification. I agree with the other Carrie Johnson, then . TWATW . I'm being kind and not saying they are men.

bellinisurge · 07/04/2022 12:19

I didn't know that. I thought Carrie Johnson was full on woo woo. Good for her if she is.

SirSidneyRuffDiamond · 07/04/2022 12:19

@bellinisurge
Actually my mistake and I take that back as I think that was a different Carrie Johnson. Apologies for muddying the waters.

SirSidneyRuffDiamond · 07/04/2022 12:15

@bellinisurge
Back in 2020 Carrie Johnson tweeted:
"Transwomen are transwomen. And that's OK."

When did she become full on TWAW?

SpringHasSprungYay · 07/04/2022 10:17

@bellinisurge

Labour has been played. Seen this all before in different formats. Voted Labour since 1987 apart from Corbyn (when I spoiled my ballot)
I am a lifelong Labour voter too & dismayed by their stance on this.

I know there are other pressing issues. But this is very important to both women & children. The very people most affected by the economic downturn.

I will never vote Tory. But Boris is right about this point. Whatever his motivations.

😢

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Hasselhoffsheadband · 07/04/2022 09:55

He's not 'nailing it'. He has seen the Labour shitshow on this issue and is swooping in to exploit it.

And who can blame him really. Its like taking candy from a baby!

SpringHasSprungYay · 07/04/2022 09:53

[quote BuanoKubiamVej]@SpringHasSprungYay He's not going to say all that in a brief interview is he?!

Not all of it maybe, but he spent the vast majority of his speaking time talking about issues that have nothing to do with conversion therapy and had no place in that interview. He looked like he was trying to change the subject rather than answering the question and he certainly could have put across some of "all that" if he had stuck to the point.[/quote]
Can we just call it "therapy" please?

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rogdmum · 07/04/2022 07:41

I don’t think he cares about the issue at all either and I think he was hoping it would all bubble around him without his needing to get involved. However, he knows a vote winner when he sees one and he does have enough people around him who do care about the issue very very much. Hopefully he will now start to properly pay attention to them and become more fluent when speaking (I thought he bumbled his way through it yesterday and made it clear it wasn’t something he’d wanted to end up needing to address). That’s enough for me.

ScreamingMeMe · 07/04/2022 07:39

To put it bluntly, Labour called us bigots and basically told us to fuck off. So many of us did. They are still calling us bigots and telling us to fuck off.

You want to get angry with someone, get angry with them.

bellinisurge · 07/04/2022 07:33

I get it @Mumoblue . It's shocking. But we can roll back economic disaster with a Labour government quite quickly. We can't roll back self-ID once it's in. Look at Ireland. They are stuck with it and it's a nightmare to undo.

ScreamingMeMe · 07/04/2022 07:32

Labour are no champions of women's rights either.

They must know by now that this issue will lose them votes -they have been told pften enough by now. But still they plough on. They are zealots. I don't want to be governed by zealots who don't care about the opinions of their potential voters.

Mumoblue · 07/04/2022 07:28

@bellinisurge

I know there’s no easy answer politically for women right now. Personally I’m just scared about being able to eat. I’m not in a position to care more about this than I do about the financial crisis, which is obviously not a fun place to be in.
I’m just trying to remind people that voting Tory isn’t automatically putting women first, when so many of us are suffering because of their incompetence and greed.

bellinisurge · 07/04/2022 07:23

@Mumoblue , I don't care that he doesn't mean it. He literally doesn't have to do anything. Labour, if they want to get into government and fix the economic catastrophe, have to play catch up.
Labour need EVERY woman to back them at the ballot box to do enough to turn back the Tories. That's how our electoral system works. It needs to be a massive voter groundswell for Labour. And they won't do it. Because of this stupidity.

bellinisurge · 07/04/2022 07:20

Labour has been played. Seen this all before in different formats. Voted Labour since 1987 apart from Corbyn (when I spoiled my ballot)

Mumoblue · 07/04/2022 07:19

Yeah he said it. But look at how things have changed in the last twelve years. The Tories are not champions of women’s rights. This is just “it’d be worse under Labour” 2.0.

The tories have spent the last twelve years shitting the bed, so forgive me for not jumping for joy when around election time Boris says he’s thinking about changing a pillowcase, when we all know he isn’t bothered in the slightest.

bellinisurge · 07/04/2022 07:17

What's to deliver? He literally doesn't have to do anything or assign any money. Just to call a halt to self ID and de facto self ID.
Cheap and easy winner.

bellinisurge · 07/04/2022 07:15

People going on about "he's only saying it for votes" he doesn't believe it. Don't give a shit. Labour aren't saying it. Labour could say it AND words about finding money for third spaces etc. But they don't because TRAs aren't interested in third spaces. Only in the validation that comes with the fantasy that TWAW.

Transwomen are Transwomen. They are not women.

TheBigDilemma · 07/04/2022 07:13

@bellinisurge

Fall for what? I don't care if he doesn't believe it or that he doesn't give a shit about women and children. He said it Starmer didn't. It needed saying. He's a prick and i will never call him Boris like he's a mate. But he is on the right side on this and Starmer has hand led to him.
Exactly, he pushes a vulnerable button with the population, gets the millions of votes, doesn’t deliver, but who cares, he said that so who cares if he is lying?

Sigh… off to enjoy the 350 millions the NHS gets a day, while I savour the financial bonanza Brexit has brought to my home. (Jesus, I can not even find a lettuce in the supermarket or keep my child warm, but who cares we are free!!!Hmm)

Imabouttoexplode · 07/04/2022 07:13

I just can't listen to him. My loathing for him knows no bounds and I can't bear all the, 'we were first to do this and that and the other' nonsense. That said, he's only saying what is factual, in that it is physically impossible to change sex. Any right minded person knows this.

GeneLovesJezebel · 07/04/2022 07:12

For me this isn’t about Boris or the Conservatives, it’s about a person in a position of power in this country standing up and saying what needed to be said.
Hopefully now this will snowball, and the nonsense that has been dictated upon us will stop.

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