£1k fine for attack on a 17 year-old girl

They were staying together at the hotel so it isn't that he followed her, they both returned to their hotel room.

She called it quits, he responded with typically manipulative behaviour ie suicide threat and when she ignored him he assaulted her.

The Daily Mail tends to twist things to suit its narrative which does it no favours. This man's behaviour needs no exaggerating for shock value, it speaks for itself.

What was he charged with? I'm no lawyer (particularly not where Scots law is concerned) but surely that is GBH

MP never posts anything that isn't woman hating trash. The choice of name makes the hairs on my neck stand up whenever I see it.

Scotland is truly broken as a country. Sentences like this don't occur in a vacuum, or just come from a rogue judge. The women hating legislature's agenda trickles down through the judiciary and police and permeates every area of public life.

This was a disgusting sentence. Proves how little women are valued.

[quote EmbarrassingHadrosaurus]I honestly don’t think margarita actually has any opinions on this, I think it’s just contrariness. Nobody could possibly think female on male violence is anywhere near the level that male violence to others is.

It's also far from the first time that MP has substantially misrepresented what was on the link (as a PP details above).

It's either an extraordinarily poor level of reading comprehension, active disinformation, or one of the Harry Frankfurt categories as outlined in On Bullshit.

www2.csudh.edu/ccauthen/576f12/frankfurt__harry_-_on_bullshit.pdf[/quote]
Marg just likes to derail a thread into everyone talking about them/their posts , which I am aware I am contributing to but feel I need to raise.

Marg also will report you for deletion if you point this out, but is ok with letting post calling them a rape apologist stand, which as a fellow attention seeker I find a bit odd, but potayto/potahto.

I know Molten - what did he need to have done to her to earn a prison sentence? The image of her in hospital was horrific. To think he's walking around near to where I live. I hope every woman within his local area knows his name and what he looks like so they can avoid him like the plague. A total animal. At least if he'd gone to prison he might have had a chance at getting some professional help/anger management - but more importantly it would have deprived him of his freedom, sent a strong message to other abusive men and prevented him from abusing some other young women. I'd really like to understand the thinking of whoever sentenced him.

That poor, poor girl. Whenever I hear of such shitty sentencing I think - what message does that send to the victim?

He purposefully followed her to the hotel, manipulated her into letting him in the room and then beat her to unconsciousness, seemingly continuing the attack once she'd been knocked out. She was left alone and could have died of her injuries.

So she has suffered a premeditated, savage and prolonged attack which has left her with life long injuries and trauma and is now told its "worth" £1k. That's all the legal system care about her suffering. It's a fuck you from society isn't it?

I honestly don’t think margarita actually has any opinions on this, I think it’s just contrariness. Nobody could possibly think female on male violence is anywhere near the level that male violence to others is.

It's also far from the first time that MP has substantially misrepresented what was on the link (as a PP details above).

It's either an extraordinarily poor level of reading comprehension, active disinformation, or one of the Harry Frankfurt categories as outlined in On Bullshit.

www2.csudh.edu/ccauthen/576f12/frankfurt__harry_-_on_bullshit.pdf

I honestly don’t think margarita actually has any opinions on this, I think it’s just contrariness. Nobody could possibly think female on male violence is anywhere near the level that male violence to others is.

There was another poster who used to do similar. If you posted something like ‘difficult for mums in the workplace’ she would race frantically to type out how it is so much harder for men because xyz. If you posted about charities that help women in war torn countries she would be hysterically typing out how much worse it was for men etc. Just generally odd.

I've reported @MargaritaPie post. Not to get it hidden because that's just cosmetic. Whatabouting the maiming of a child is one of the most clearly misogynistic things I've ever seen. Bad enough the posts about vulnerable prostituted women but not giving a shit about a scarred 17 yo?

What the fuck is wrong with you?

@Kanaloa yes it sounds like DD is naturally different to DS but don't underestimate the power of female socialisation on an already trusting girl.

Thant's disgusting. That poor girl!

Every day we are shown just how little we matter.
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There’s always one person who will dig through and insist that oh look women do this too. It’s the same if you mention racism, someone will scrape through and find some instance of a black person engaging in some sort of poor behaviour to a white person and say oh but look this happened.

@timeisnotaline he was 19 when he attacked her and 22 now

Hmm it’s not a bad idea. However she is only 10!

This is an excellent time to get her into martial arts training.

I think it's quite illuminating of this person's priorities, which we see in several of their areas of interest on Mumsnet

Exactly.

And I wonder how long it took to wade through the litanies of cases of males torturing, killing, raping, assaulting, maiming and disfiguring females - an entrenched, cross-cultural and historical pattern to find one of the few cases where a female assaults a male.

Who does that?? I was absolutely despairing when I read about this case. And then to come on here and see you at it. FFS.

I think it's quite illuminating of this person's priorities, which we see in several of their areas of interest on Mumsnet.

Furries I was surprised by this ruling.But when you look at the sentencing guidelines (available online) It was a prolonged/persistent assault which caused more than minor physical harm/distress. Putting it in High culpability, category 1 harm, which carries a sentence of low level community order to 26 weeks custody. If he pleaded guilty he'll get 1/3 off his sentence-being under 25 is mitigation and he could have had no prior convictions. However it was against an intimate partner which makes it worse-we don't have all the facts but this does seem too lenient. Never forget the law was written by men, for men....men can plead all sorts of things to reduce the severity of punishment. At least he has a conviction so has lost his 'previous good character.'

Margarita Pie this might get me banned but how fucking dare you come on this thread about this despicable crime and criminal sentencing with your shitty 'whataboutery'. Who does that?? I was absolutely despairing when I read about this case. And then to come on here and see you at it. FFS.