Jimmy Savile - A British Horror Show

Be said 'what have I done to you for you to draw me like that?' she lay there paralysed on the bed and coldly said 'everything'.
Yes, I picked up on that too
Just laughed away as if she meant it as a joke, when it's likely she didn't at all.

@NotAGirl yes I think that is what got to me the most

I was born in 73 and can remember vividly the culture of the time. There is no way she would have been believed. There was a phrase used by the real nest of vipers in my village growing up 'children should be seen and not heard '

One part of the documentary which I found particularly chilling was when he produced artwork of his face drawn by a disabled patient at Leeds General. She had drawn his face all distorted with evil fangs and it was just disturbing. He said 'what have I done to you for you to draw me like that?' she lay there paralysed on the bed and coldly said 'everything'.

He immediately minimised it and said 'fun times here, always fun times'.
It left me cold.

A guy I knew over 28 years ago was from Leeds & he said “everyone” in Leeds & further afield knew “ Savile was a filthy old pervert who had the police in his pocket so no one knew what to do about it with no proof.
I had said to him why didn’t he do something but he had no solid proof.

I just think are we supposed to buy the fact that this monster had close friendships with senior members of the British government, Royal Family and other institutions such as our NHS and the Security Services were not aware of what he was up to
Yeah, that bit seemed to be touched on but
completely glossed over
Interesting there was actually a reporter who asked a question basically along those lines.
Can't remember exact quote so paraphrasing here but basically ''so what's in it for them being such close friends?' '
His response was long silence and then a no comment

Friends with the West Yorkshire Police, of course.

I suppose it makes sense that these men would want to play up stranger danger while encouraging children to think of them as something akin to family friends.

Jimmy Savile himself had a book aimed at children about stranger danger (briefly talked about in this documentary) which tells children about how strangers are dangerous, friends and family are safe, and the foreword to the book is signed off by “your friend, Jimmy Savile”.

Rolf Harris also did an educational video about not letting anyone touch you if it felt uncomfortable and it was ok to say no. Must've been the same campaign.

I understand that some of the content will be triggering for me as a survivor of CSA but I wanted to ask if it is presented factually and respectfully, rather than as 'entertainment' before I attempt to view?

It is presented factually, but there's also a heartbreaking interview with someone who was abused by him as a child, where she recounts her experiences and she understandably gets very emotional, you could see the little child still inside
So if you have CSA experiences I can imagine that would be very triggering

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Apparently he has a king relationship with a woman he kept completely quiet. She was introduced on rare occasions as his ‘friend’. She became pregnant and had an abortion without telling him as he said he didn’t want children.
Then one day he just dumped her with no explanation.

I've just been watching this, it's utterly sickening.
Those poor children.
I'm of the age where I was a kid who used to love watching Jim'll Fix It.
It's hard to think how well loved he was back then, some next level hiding in plain sight.
I mean, he even tells you about who he is, in his so called '' jokes ''
Just wish he could have been found guilty when alive as it's disgusting he basically got away with it all.

I looked up his background to try and understand how he became so very odd. He was the youngest of seven yet says he had no one to buy for at Xmas and no one to spend it with. Did he have no contact with his siblings and their families? Why were no school friends or teachers mentioned? Family friends? What sort of upbringing did he have? Something made him warped. From the interview with his mother it sounds like he was hit and felt unloved. All very strange. No mention of his father.
All this boasting about ‘girls’, yet it doesn’t sound like he had one normal relationship in his whole life.
It was a chilling programme.

The woman who was the little girl in the church. What an amazing lady. Her story broke my heart.

But so much of it still happening today, you only need to look at the Girl Guides or the Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre, to see what the future could hold for our young and vulnerable women and girls.

I disliked him intensely as a child. I remember feeling bewildered about why they kept putting this horrible old creepy man on almost every show. he was literally everywhere. His jokes weren't funny and he was odd.
But the 60s,70s, and even 80,s were different times. Women were regularly groped and leered at. It was laughed off, even if the women had come forward they may have been believed, but no one would have cared, it just wasn't taken seriously. It was 'just life' and you had to put up with it.
It was so common, you only have to look at the TV programs of the time to see how sexist it was (Benny hill) and how women were expected to tolerate it and take it as a compliment.
The cult of celebrity protected him, he deliberately targeted young and vulnerable women who he knew couldn't stand up to him.

The lady who told her account of being repeatedly molested in church was heartbreaking. Her attempts to avoid the abuse were so desperate.

@veronicagoldberg

We're walking into a very similar (and potentially more far-reaching) situation by allowing men to identify into roles such as Brownie leaders with no questioning permitted.

We most certainly are sister , terrifying. And the rest....

We're probably talking about two different people here as well

I'm pretty sure we are, and I have also read about others. This was in early 2000s (it had only just happened before I met her) so people at her workplace really should have been better, but I guess no one was going to challenge Jimmy Savile, and he had the police on his side too. Awful.

I was in McDonalds on Oxford Street in the early 2000s and felt someone looking at me. I can't be 100% that it was Jimmy Savile but I think it was. I remember thinking at the time what a pathetic, leery old man he looked. He was really dishevelled. I was in my early 20s but looked young. The way he looked at me convinced me at the time that this pathetic creep couldn't be the famous, charismatic JS. But given everything that came to light subsequently, I think it probably was.

[quote 52andblue]@NotAGirl
@MrsPelligrinoPetrichor

thank you, that is helpful. I find programmes can be made about awful RL things such as abuse & murder in an almost 'salacious' / 'entertaining' way which I find distressing in itself so it's good to know they've avoided that trap although obviously the content will be hard.[/quote]
It's much more about his fame, charitable work and royal family connections. It's all very factual. Imo probably the best they could've made it There is talk of the abuse but it's a woman recounting her abuse. She's amazing and comes across really well. I'm so pleased she's ended up with a nice family.

@NotAGirl
@MrsPelligrinoPetrichor

thank you, that is helpful. I find programmes can be made about awful RL things such as abuse & murder in an almost 'salacious' / 'entertaining' way which I find distressing in itself so it's good to know they've avoided that trap although obviously the content will be hard.